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    Parametric stair & elevator cores

    Has anyone created this? I figure that they are similar enough from project to project to justify creating a pre-built model with parameters for width, length, floor to floor height, number of elevators, and enclosure wall material and thickness. I would only make it one floor tall and copy instances up a project. I can't decide if I'd just use one family and build the walls out of a simple extrusion, or try to make a group and maybe drive the shaft size with a mass element. Any suggestions? It's kind of a bummer that there are so many limitations with applying parameters to system families.

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    Originally posted by cbaze View Post
    Has anyone created this? I figure that they are similar enough from project to project to justify creating a pre-built model with parameters for width, length, floor to floor height, number of elevators, and enclosure wall material and thickness. I would only make it one floor tall and copy instances up a project. I can't decide if I'd just use one family and build the walls out of a simple extrusion, or try to make a group and maybe drive the shaft size with a mass element. Any suggestions? It's kind of a bummer that there are so many limitations with applying parameters to system families.
    We have a highly parametric Elevator. It does NOT include the shaft walls (they are WALLS), it does not include the doors in the WALLS (they are equipment) however it does (obviously) include the cab, the rails, the motors, the weights, and a symbolic reference for the Shaft outline, so you know where to put the walls in.

    The moment you have to put in FTF heights, etc, youre talking about arrays, or a set of parameters for every single floor, and the family turns to junk. FWIW: We wont use the elevator manufacturers crap for the same reason. Youve got to tag those walls in documentation, and the equipment pieces. And the doors arent always in the same place.

    Elevator Super Family = Fail.
    Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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      #3
      Hi cbaze,
      I agree what Aaron is saying. This is also a similar experience of many other revit users.
      We have bundled all these experiences into a free elevator add-on Elevatorarchitect. I contains free elevator Revit families and knows most of the elavtors from the big 4 companies (Otis, Schindler, ThyssenKrupp & Kone) overalll more than 50.000 different combinations of sizes.

      You may download and install it for free from:

      http://www.digipara.com/ElevatorArchitect.aspx

      Hope that helps, Andreas

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        #4
        That looks pretty amazing Andreas
        William Sutherland rias riba
        WS Architecture Ltd

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          #5
          Thnakyou Andreas, making us far more productive over here!

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            #6
            Andreas-

            I give you kudos on building the pieces correctly (not imported geometry) and on not trying to make the content do too much (No walls in the elevator assembly). It is certainly a step in the right direction. The next step would have to be a dialogue box in some way letting the users delineate which walls are the shafts, so the doors can be face based and cut the openings as well. Otherwise, right now i still have to cut openings on every floor for each elevator door.

            Our internal elevator content takes a minute or two longer to place, but the doors can be done with a model group copied and pasted same place by level, and they are all face based so they cut the walls. Just something to think about.
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            Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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              Aaron, All,
              Thank you for the feedback.
              @Aaron: We are on the same line, I absoultely agree what you are saying. We are considering to add the wall opening (just a void, not bundled with the landing door), in case we are finding a wall in front of the door. We will let you know, but it might take some time.
              Andreas

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