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    gbXML (& other functions)

    The Revit gbXML workflow doesn't get much love.

    (A selection of previous threads: http://www.revitforum.org/mep-genera...ces-gbxml.html, http://www.revitforum.org/mep-genera...ing-gbxml.html, http://www.revitforum.org/architectu...ml-2013-a.html & http://www.revitforum.org/mep-genera...vit-gbxml.html)


    Whilst troubleshooting an (open) ticket w/ Autodesk on the function (we were/are seeing an inconsistency with the tool actually making a file) and looking for a viewer (anyone?) I found (albeit quite late) there was an update to the schema in August 2014.

    (see here: Current Schema - Green Building XML Schema)

    and was curious if there was value/risk in updating/replacing the “GreenBuildingXML.xsd” found in C:\Program Files\Autodesk\Revit 2015 with the newer version (available from that link)





    Whilst having a nose in that folder (for the first time in a long time) - and other folders like it (when looking for *.xsd files - then later .xml files) I found a number of other interesting (sounding at least) items - and I was wondering if anyone has ever had a root around and played with these - and if so - to what affect?
    Last edited by snowyweston; September 7, 2015, 01:31 PM.

    #2
    EDIT-UPDATE
    So a Mr Stephen Roth (of gbXML fame) got back to me - he reckons there shouldn't be a problem - so I go to do a bit of rainy afternoon downtime tinkering to swap them out - and now, can I find the originals were I found them before... no!?!

    Can someone check their install locations for the file "GreenBuildingXML.xsd" in either
    C:\Program Files\Autodesk\Revit 2015
    C:\Program Files\Autodesk\Revit Architecture 2015
    please?

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      #3
      I found mine in the C:\Program Files\Autodesk\Revit 2015 folder. I attached if it helps.
      Attached Files
      Revit for newbies - A starting point for RFO


      chad
      BEER: Better, Efficient, Elegant, Repeatable.

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        #4
        Originally posted by cellophane;148065I
        attached if it helps.
        Cheers Chad.

        TBH I now feel like I've opened up a can of (long dead) worms - the file you get from gbxml.org is an .xml, Revit ships with an .xsd (and I've no real understanding of either) - so suspect I've set off on a wild goose chase...

        Nonetheless I persevere...


        BUT!

        In my efforts to push on; having just installed DDS Viewer to read the .gbxml files I have created (with Revit OOTB) I am getting the attached error (which doesn't "read" much sense :banghead: ) - whereas downloaded sample .gbxml files (from gbxml.org) open just fine.

        I seem to recall Aaron some threads a-go calling out the Revit<gbXML workflow as "borked" (I might be paraphrasing), but there's "awkward and complicated" and then there's "broken entirely"...
        Attached Files
        Last edited by snowyweston; September 8, 2015, 06:40 PM.

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          #5
          Not sure why Revit ships with a different format. Both can be opened with Notepad++ (btw - if you aren't using it you are missing out. great program) or any XML viewer, including your web browser.

          XML is just a markup language (i.e. code) that is easier to work with than more traditional languages like C#. The schema (tag definitions) are defined by gbxml.org. You could make any schema you want - I've seen XML used for UI modifications in video games (World of Warcraft) to good effect. It allowed for a lot of user customization while still working within the framework of the game.

          In the attached image:

          <gbXML defines the file and adds in some definitions
          <campus defines the campus (building) information including location (latitude & longitude, city, postal code etc)
          <Building defines the building use (residential, commercial, healthcare etc), area, address
          <Surface defines the various components (walls, roofs etc), provides coodinates and gives some descriptions used by analysis software
          Attached Files
          Revit for newbies - A starting point for RFO


          chad
          BEER: Better, Efficient, Elegant, Repeatable.

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            #6
            Originally posted by cellophane View Post
            (btw - if you aren't using it you are missing out. great program)
            Fret not on that part, it's part of our office deployment! Love how it retains files-opened, I've my core Revit .txt files (SP, AssemblyCode, OmniClass, & RVT>DWG) always open - great for quick searching.

            But anyway, back to the problem in hand.

            Unless it's a fault with DDS Viewer (unlikely) the Revit-made files just don't work.

            Think I might have to take this to twitter... :hide:

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              #7
              Do you have a link for DDS Viewer? I was able to open a Revit (2016) created file in Notepad++ with no issues. It did not open in ComCheck though...
              Revit for newbies - A starting point for RFO


              chad
              BEER: Better, Efficient, Elegant, Repeatable.

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                #8
                It's not that I can't open them in Notepad++, it's that a viewer that supports opening the format, can't!

                Be good to know if it opens for you:
                Originally posted by cellophane View Post
                Do you have a link for DDS Viewer?
                DDS-CAD Viewer



                ...frustratingly (interestingly?) Green Building Studio (sorry 'Project Solon BETA') does open these Revit-created files (that DDS-Viewer doesn't/can't) - at least in terms of doing that analysis aspects - which puts me at some ease - but I'm still keen to see an actual geometric projection of the file...

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                  #9
                  I can't get DDS to open anything that is created by Revit... I went back to some XML files from Revit 2014...

                  Interesting that the sample file(s) on gbxml were created in Revit - at least the one I looked at. I didn't see any major differences between the sample files and the Revit file other than some formatting so I'm not sure what the issue is.
                  Revit for newbies - A starting point for RFO


                  chad
                  BEER: Better, Efficient, Elegant, Repeatable.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by cellophane View Post
                    Interesting that the sample file(s) on gbxml were created in Revit - at least the one I looked at. I didn't see any major differences between the sample files and the Revit file other than some formatting so I'm not sure what the issue is.
                    You see what I'm (we're) up against?

                    I saw the same (in terms of format) with the downloaded examples (I took all three) all showing condensed onto 3, maybe 4, lines - whereas the Revit ones were "expanded" across many.

                    I'm not letting the ticket close just yet.

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