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    Using Curtain Wall for Piles walls

    Hi,

    I recently did a job that required a large amount of piled walls. I used a line based family with one nested pile.
    This worked ok but I need more flexibility to adjust the top and of the pile wall.

    If I have a similar job again I think I might try to use a Curtain wall with Mullions set to circular Mullions. The disadvantage will be if you adjust for example the top of the wall the pile (mullion) will not be horizontal - it will follow the angle of the wall.

    J
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    #2
    Originally posted by jh75 View Post
    ... The disadvantage will be if you adjust for example the top of the wall the pile (mullion) will not be horizontal - it will follow the angle of the wall.
    But in the file you provided, the top of the mullions (piles) is horizontal, it does not follow the angle of the wall.
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      #3
      Hi,

      Hmm you are correct - don't know how I missed that. My only excuse is that I posted that before my morning coffee and didn't have my glasses on
      That is how I wanted it ie the pile top to be horiz.
      J

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        #4
        No problem, then. Enjoy your :coffee: and happy 4th of July.
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          #5
          As an architect, I would hate to have piling created as mullions, but can see your reasoning for doing so.
          I'm currently working on a project where mullions are used for piling by Structural. A real pain as a) I have to clean them out in the linked filed in views and b) you won't be able to schedule them properly.
          For my next project, I will absolutely refuse for this method to be used again.

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            #6
            You could get crazy with your line based family and make them adjustable. I am thinking Instance based length parameter for the nested family. Maybe my coffee hasnt kicked in... i do feel crazy this morning.
            -Alex Cunningham

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              #7
              Why not use a Beam System? It has all the advantages you just stated, but is in the "right" category...)
              Martijn de Riet
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                #8
                I did a post way back in the day on the old Augi forum, regarding the same question.

                The answer was, essentially, that it cant be done.

                I think the best way to do it, is to array piles at the desired centres, use a standard concrete wall, and make them the same material so that they 'blend' at the intersection of wall and pile.

                Next problem: Rock anchors.

                There is a huge demand for some kind of family or add-on that could set out your piles at correct spacings, AND allow you to insert and declinate rock anchors (and then to have them schedule, AND have a nice symbol for the elevation) so if anyone knows how to program or nest those kinds of things, you would be a squillionaire.

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                  #9
                  Hi,

                  I have created a Rock Anchor but it is very much a WIP. You can schedule bond length, lock of load etc.

                  J
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Karalon10 View Post
                    I did a post way back in the day on the old Augi forum, regarding the same question.

                    The answer was, essentially, that it cant be done.

                    I think the best way to do it, is to array piles at the desired centres, use a standard concrete wall, and make them the same material so that they 'blend' at the intersection of wall and pile.
                    I must be missing something here, see attached...

                    I used a round steel beam (cause I couldn't find a concrete one just now), but this can do what the OP stated. You can have all sorts of top forms, just made one with a curvy top.
                    Only thing it doesn't do is join the beams, but that might be the type of beam I used.
                    Create the Beam System in Plan, then rotate in Elevation. You can modify after rotating it.
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