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    AMD Firepro W4170M (not looking for review... Cant get it to work)

    Were testing some light machines, NOT for heavy Revit lifting. More just for file Opening, and such. They are short on RAM (as far as im concerned), and not really up to the task, but i digress. Heres the issue:

    The machine has the AMD Firepro W4170M. Obviously, it also has an Intel Integrated HD 4600.

    This sounds pretty similar to my Dell M4700 and our Dell M4800's, which have Intel Integrateds and nvidia quadro K2000m/k2100m cards. The thing is, on the nvidia machines if we disable Optimus, Revit always uses the nvidia card, and it performs admirably.

    On the M2800 with the AMD card, we cant figure out how to FORCE revit to use the Firepro. Revit always shows that its using the HD4600.

    You cant disable the Intel integrated card in device manager (on either machine), since the nvidia AND the AMD both run off the back of the Intel card. Anyone have experience with this?
    Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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    #2
    For a system that supposedly says they are pretty much the CAD/CAM card of choice you would think there would be no issues.

    But from a brief look about the card....the Intel driver HAS to be installed before the FirePro Driver...then when the Catalyst software is installed you can specify that Revit (or any other program) is using the high performance GPU...(How can I ensure that my applications are using the high-performance, discrete GPU if the Switchable Graphics option is not available in the AMD Catalyst? Control Center?)
    Michael "MP" Patrick (Deceased - R.I.P)

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      #3
      Yeah... We made sure the CCC says that Revit will use the "Performance GPU" (aka the AMD card, we assume) but Revit still insists the Intel card is in use. Even though it is working halfway decently.

      But we will have to run through and see if Switchable grpahics are enabled everywhere else. Ugh.
      Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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        #4
        Originally posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
        Yeah... We made sure the CCC says that Revit will use the "Performance GPU" (aka the AMD card, we assume) but Revit still insists the Intel card is in use. Even though it is working halfway decently.

        But we will have to run through and see if Switchable grpahics are enabled everywhere else. Ugh.
        Read somewhere else that since the card is essentially the same card and not two different cards the branding will show the dominant card even though it is using the high performance chip. That might be the issue. But this is the reason I tend to go with dedicated cards as I have had my computer crash when I had Revit open then opened up Word that wanted to use the intel chip.
        Michael "MP" Patrick (Deceased - R.I.P)

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          #5
          I dont know much about how laptops are put together, honestly. But the Dell machines with the nvidias work fine. This machine is a "lower powered" machine, and im basing my concern solely off the fact that Revit says "Intel integrated" in the options, under graphics... Where the nvidia powered machines only do that if the optimus **** is turned on.

          But we also basically overheated the machine making it open a heavy revit model. (Which is good, since the entire point of testing it was i told them it doesnt meet the spec for what i want for revit).

          So hopefully... it doesnt matter. hahahaha.
          Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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            #6
            Show them you can cook eggs on the surface below it...
            Michael "MP" Patrick (Deceased - R.I.P)

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              #7
              I believe that you have to disable the integrated video in the BIOS. At least last time I helped a friend with his PC I had to disable the Intel Graphics from the BIOS. the M2800 might not have the option available in the BIOS though.
              -Alex Cunningham

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                #8
                There isnt anything in the BIOS related to the video card. Not even Enabling Switching. But im certain you cannot disable it in Device Manager, or the AMD card loses its ability to function. Thats true on the nvidia rigs as well. That seems to be a "modern intel integrated" thing, or something.

                I think im in the clear though. Even after we killed Revit and revizto in task manager, that machine didnt come back to functional until it cooled off. No bueno, lol.
                Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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                  #9
                  I have seen something like this with the W540 we get from Lenovo. I have not asked them yet mainly because we only run into issues when we try to run two LCD's with the laptop screen up. But I have also noticed on it that I cant find a way to turn off the Optimus.
                  Jeff Campbell
                  Autodesk AutoCAD 2012/2013 Certified Professional
                  Autodesk Revit Architecture 2013 Certified Professional
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