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    Problems related to Voids / Solids / Reference Planes in Massing

    Hello,

    I can't make Solids and Voids work together when modeling an In-Place Mass!

    I want to create empty spaces inside a solid mass, and for that I figured it would be a good way to create voids that are connected to each other. But the thing is that I can't find a way to build voids that are next to each other, have one common plane as a side. When I try it, I get the following message:

    "Cannot remake form that is currently cut or joined to other geometry. Please uncut or unjoin first." I just can't find a way to uncut or unjoin. Why would that be necessary if I'm building solids out of different polygons, even if their edges geometrically intercept?

    I'm attaching a picture to make it clearer.



    I also tried modeling what Munkholm explained in his Revit Nightmares blog, unsuccesfully too:

    http://revit-nightmares.blogspot.com...ith-yesno.html

    I can't find a way to attach Reference Planes to the Voids. Does that only work while making Conceptual Masses or is this function available in In-Place Masses too?



    Also, regarding Reference Planes: I wanted to create Reference Planes that are angled in position to my 4 Elevations (N,S,W,E). Is this possible? I could only build Reference Planes that are perpendicular to an existing Elevation or Plane View. And how do I delete Refence Planes that are not being used anymore? Apparently hitting delete is not doing the trick.

    Thanks a lot!
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    Originally posted by SkepticSon View Post
    Hello,

    I can't make Solids and Voids work together when modeling an In-Place Mass!

    I want to create empty spaces inside a solid mass, and for that I figured it would be a good way to create voids that are connected to each other. But the thing is that I can't find a way to build voids that are next to each other, have one common plane as a side. When I try it, I get the following message:

    "Cannot remake form that is currently cut or joined to other geometry. Please uncut or unjoin first." I just can't find a way to uncut or unjoin. Why would that be necessary if I'm building solids out of different polygons, even if their edges geometrically intercept?

    I'm attaching a picture to make it clearer.
    Try to create the voids separately first, and then drag and lock them to each other afterwards...

    Originally posted by SkepticSon View Post
    I also tried modeling what Munkholm explained in his Revit Nightmares blog, unsuccesfully too:

    http://revit-nightmares.blogspot.com...ith-yesno.html

    I can't find a way to attach Reference Planes to the Voids. Does that only work while making Conceptual Masses or is this function available in In-Place Masses too?
    You shouldn´t attach the Ref. Planes to the Voids, but the Voids to the Ref. Planes. The example in the Blog was made in the Family Editor BTW.

    Originally posted by SkepticSon View Post
    Also, regarding Reference Planes: I wanted to create Reference Planes that are angled in position to my 4 Elevations (N,S,W,E). Is this possible? I could only build Reference Planes that are perpendicular to an existing Elevation or Plane View. And how do I delete Refence Planes that are not being used anymore? Apparently hitting delete is not doing the trick.

    Thanks a lot!
    Ref. Planes at an angle should not be Ref. Planes, but Ref. Lines instead (At least if the angle is a variable)
    Klaus Munkholm
    "Do. Or do not. There is no try."

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      #3
      Originally posted by SkepticSon View Post
      I can't make Solids and Voids work together when modeling an In-Place Mass!
      ...
      I have tried to reproduce the exercise that you showed in the image, and I have not had any issues creating the 3 voids inside the solid, sharing common faces. I am using Revit 2012. I am creating the voids in the same session of mass editing. Once the 3 voids are created, I use Finish Mass. Am I doing something different?
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        #4
        Munkholm, I'll try doing the Voids separately as you suggested.

        Originally posted by Munkholm View Post
        You shouldn´t attach the Ref. Planes to the Voids, but the Voids to the Ref. Planes. The example in the Blog was made in the Family Editor BTW.
        Yes, I noticed it was made in the Family Editor. My question was if that can be done in a normal project too.

        I still don't get how to work with the Voids as you explained =|



        Alfredo, I also use Revit 2012, but I can't make it work!


        I'm still quite lost with lots of Revit funcionalities, such as Ref. Planes, Ref. Lines, Family Editor, Concept Masses, In-Place Masses... does anyone have any recommendations on books, internet guides, etc.?
        Last edited by SkepticSon; June 20, 2011, 09:22 PM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by SkepticSon View Post
          Munkholm, I'll try doing the Voids separately as you suggested.



          Yes, I noticed it was made in the Family Editor. My question was if that can be done in a normal project too.

          I still don't get how to work with the Voids as you explained =|



          Alfredo, I also use Revit 2012, but I can't make it work!


          I'm still quite lost with lots of Revit funcionalities, such as Ref. Planes, Ref. Lines, Family Editor, Concept Masses, In-Place Masses... does anyone have any recommendations on books, internet guides, etc.?
          Right here in RFO is the Best Place in the World to get accurate and valuable information about any of these topics. Just ask a question...and get several good answers is how is works most of the time
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