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    Curtain Wall Door not visible in detail view.

    This is not the end of the world because we typically hide the modeled door family in detail and use a detail component, but I’m just trying to understand the behavior.

    My curtain wall door will not show up in a detail view in plan. If I use a “Floor Plan” callout it shows up properly, as well as in a detail callout in section. The OTTB curtain wall door will show up in both types of views, as will all my wall hosted doors. Its just my curtain wall door that won’t work properly. There are only two ways I can get the door to show up in the detail view: 1) make the door panel in the family visible in plan (not a good option because like most people we just want to see the swing) or 2) if the head height of the curtain wall door is lower than the cut plane of the parent plan (as our plans cut in the 4’ area and we are not designing doors for oompa loompas this is also not a good option).

    Or are there any ideas out there?

    Door Family Attached (I think!).
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    Mia Frietze
    LPA, Inc.

    #2
    I loaded your door family into a curtain wall; in the project, I switched the detail level of the plan view to all the three options, and the door shows the detail component (the leaf and the door swing) correctly, in all the detail levels, as expected. I don't see the problem.
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      #3
      Originally posted by Alfredo Medina View Post
      I loaded your door family into a curtain wall; in the project, I switched the detail level of the plan view to all the three options, and the door shows the detail component (the leaf and the door swing) correctly, in all the detail levels, as expected. I don't see the problem.
      I THINK that the OP doesn't want to see the door, only the door swing, per his item #1 and I don't see how this could be done. Item #2 should be handled with a plan region maybe?
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        #4
        Can I come use your computers then? =) Hmm...

        Well, I thought it might be our template then. So I loaded the door in a new project with no template. And I get the same BAD results. Everything is the same. It shows up in a FLOOR PLAN view, it shows up in a FLOOR PLAN CALLOUT, but it does NOT show up (leaf or door swing) in a DETAIL VIEW CALLOUT in plan.

        I've attached a screen shot.
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        Mia Frietze
        LPA, Inc.

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          #5
          Not sure what going on exactly, but I get the same behavior.

          Maybe because you are using a Detail Component for the Door Swing? (I usually use make the Swings in the Door category)

          Anyway, found that if you add a model line the the CW family, the CW Door will show in the Detail View Callout... Guess that the Detail View Callout "thinks" that there is no door, since the 3D panel is turned off, and the swing is a detail component... doesn´t make much sense though.
          Klaus Munkholm
          "Do. Or do not. There is no try."

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            #6
            Originally posted by mfrietze View Post
            Can I come use your computers then? =) Hmm...
            Sorry about the confusion. I had misunderstood something in the original post. Here´s my suggestion: take the components of this door and assemble them again in a new door family. I took your detail component and put it in another door, loaded into the project, made a detail view callout, and the detail component showed perfectly. However, I checked many things and could not find any difference in check marks, options, visibility, etc, comparing the door family that works and the door family that doesn´t. But if you put the same component in another door family, it works.
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              #7
              Just getting back to this after a work-free long weekend... =)

              Thanks for your comments and suggestions! I did as you suggested and loaded the same components (detail and model) into a new family and started t from scratch. Just too see if I could find where things failed I loaded it into a project at each step. And this is what happened.

              1) Add door swing --> yes (swing detail component visible)
              2) Add panel --> yes (swing detail component and door panel component visible)
              3) Make panel not visible in plan--> NO!! (door panel component AND swing detail component NOT visible)
              4) Add symbolic line at centerline of panel --> NO!! (symbolic line, door panel and detail component all NOT visible)
              5) Add model line at centerline of panel --> yes! (swing visible, door panel component not visible, model line visible)
              6) Make model line not visible in plan --> yes!

              So... starting a new family didn't work, but adding a random model line that is not visible in plan and covered up by the door panel in ever other view seems to be my best option. Strange, strange, strange!

              Despite the unexplained behavior, this will work. Thank you, gentlemen, for checking it out!
              Mia Frietze
              LPA, Inc.

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