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    reveals v model lines : which take more bytes

    hello all,
    i am trying to plan to add lines for control joints between brick panels, metal panels etc. in elevation. i have a question regarding the difference between reveals and model lines to convey these elements and their effect on the overall size of the model.
    i have used reveals to do this before, but to little advantage. there are all sorts of funky things that happen with them. i can't seem to dimension to the centerline, you can't control the line-weight, and when you hide them, they still take a chunk out of the wall. so i was hoping to add model lines on the face of the walls instead, to avoid the above complaints.
    however i wonder, will groups of model lines, although easier to control graphically, weigh down the model in size more than using the reveals will? the model i am working with is quite large (in megabytes) and fairly complex, so whatever option would add less weight to the model would be most desirable.
    thanks so much ahead of time.

    regards,
    t

    #2
    Wouldn't detail lines be better? You'll have to do them for every elevation, but the control joints probably aren't in the same places for each elevation anyway.

    I wouldn't do reveals. That sounds like a time consuming process. All you need is something to show where the joints are. Lines would be best IMO.
    Dan

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      #3
      dan,
      thank you for your prompt reply!
      i agree that detail lines are a great way to show the control joints, and plus, they are just as easy as model lines to control graphically. but the problem with detail lines is that they are view specific and do not show up in 3d views. with model lines, they stick to the face or work plane they are assigned to, and they appear in multiple views.
      also, if you have tried reveals and model lines before, i would be interested in finding which contributed to the size of the model more. the real question i have here is whether switching to grouped model lines will actually make our model even larger than if we used the reveals.

      thanks again,
      t

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        #4
        Maybe start out be placing ref. planes, and then using those to place the reveals on... that would allow you to dimension to the center. I wouldn´t be too concerned about the file size... only if you actually get a performance hit, which I doubt,
        Klaus Munkholm
        "Do. Or do not. There is no try."

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          #5
          Another option is to create a material with the control joint pattern and apply that finish to your exterior walls. You can adjust them in elevation easily afterwards.


          Edit...I actually mis-read the OP. The method I am proposing may not be the way to go here...Suggest model lines. You don't even need to create reference plans in a lot of cases you can set the wall face as the work plane.
          Last edited by renogreen; June 3, 2011, 09:51 PM.

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            #6
            or use revit 2012 where you can panalize walls now
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              #7
              For brick panels I would just use detail lines.....because I could see someone in a plan view saying "what is this model line here for?" and delete it...

              As for metal panels we use curtain walls with a wall type for the panels...Its a little bit extra work if you have a lot of window openings, but you can adjust grid locations a lot easier.
              Michael "MP" Patrick (Deceased - R.I.P)

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                #8
                Is this "quite large and fairly complex" building going to be rendered for visualizations? If not, great - Go with the detail or model lines. But if it´s going to be rendered (In Revit, Max or whatever), you really need to make the Reveals (or panalizing walls?, which I´ve not tried yet in 2012)
                Klaus Munkholm
                "Do. Or do not. There is no try."

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                  #9
                  Face based families. They cut, they can have CL dimensions, and they show up in every view. Lines = epic fail.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by JBZ View Post
                    or use revit 2012 where you can panalize walls now
                    Originally posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
                    Face based families. They cut, they can have CL dimensions, and they show up in every view. Lines = epic fail.
                    Aaron, do you suggest face based families instead of the 'parts' method (2012) JBZ maybe indicating above?
                    I imagine the amount of actual work and time taken to be similar either way, but having the cut sections integral to the component (instead of in a separate family) may be simpler for quantity scheduling and the like? I ask because we'll be upgrading to 2012 next week and I have a job requiring panelling.
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