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    Rotate plywood hatch?

    Is there a way to get my plywood hatch to rotate with my element? When placing a DC Plywood-Section, the hatch only runs horizontal. I need to draw a vertical piece of plywood and my hatch will only go horizontal.

    #2
    Go to the material that is assigned to your plywood. Under the graphics tab, you'll see where you have the cut pattern set. Hit the button just to the right of the pattern (with the 3 dots). Then hit the edit button.

    About a third of the way down (just under Scale) you will see "Orientation in Host Layers". Hit that dropdown and select "align with element".

    That should do it.
    Dan

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      #3
      I think that only works with model patterns, even though it's an available option for drafting patterns. I believe the plywood pattern is stuck horizontal; I've seen it on the wishlist for a while.

      Arcturis
      BIM Manager
      Associate Architect

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        #4
        As a detail component, the hatch is defined as a hatch pattern in the DC family, not in the project. What Dan refers too only applies if the hatch is part of a system family, walls, roofs, ceilings, floors. Plywood hatches suck in Revit. According to Autodesk, the only way to get the plywood hatch to follow the orientation of you component is to make it a model hatch pattern, then you'd be able to align the hatch pattern after the component is placed. However, what I've discovered is that the scale of the plywood patterns we typically use becomes too dense and Revit can't create it as a model pattern. We ended up using some other .pat file, but it's not ideal...
        From Autodesk:
        "In order for the fill pattern to rotate, it must be set to a "Pattern Type" of "Model" versus "Drafting." Drafting fill patterns are based on the scale of the view. Model fill patterns are based on the actual dimensions in the building model and will rotate with the object.
        Video Example: http://screencast.com/t/VtnhaDDsQUq
        Note: The video example shows the 2009 software, but the same issue occurs in the 2010 software.
        Since the plywood fill pattern, built into Revit, is a Drafting fill pattern you will need to create a new plywood "model" type pattern. If you do not have a .pat file to import, you can try creating a new one using HatchMaker.lsp. For more information on creating a custom fill pattern see the following blog posting:
        http://revitclinic.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/11/custom-fill-pattern-anyone.html"

        And here is Autodesk's response to the "align with element, etc" options:
        "As for the additional questions, the orient to view, align to element, and keep readable options only apply to elements such as walls. They do not apply to details and filled regions.

        To work around this issue, you'd need to use a combination of model and drafting patterns to achieve the end result you are looking for."
        Last edited by t1shep; June 1, 2011, 06:04 PM.

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          #5
          The default "plywood hatch" is one of the things in Revit that I simply cannot abide. It is actually a pattern for glu-lams, and the fact that it does not rotate just adds to the suckiness. I gleaned a detail component for plywood from some other web site a while back. I don't remember who made it - it might have been Mr Maller.
          I like it very much.
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            #6
            Wow really?
            This seems like a pretty basic feature and one of those times when I hit my head against the table at how idiotic these people can be.

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              #7
              Originally posted by rosskirby View Post
              I think that only works with model patterns, even though it's an available option for drafting patterns. I believe the plywood pattern is stuck horizontal; I've seen it on the wishlist for a while.
              I tested it with the horizontal lines drafting pattern (cut pattern) and it works. I also did it with the wood 3 hatch pattern, and although the scale was too large, it worked there as well.

              Maybe I'm missing something?
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              Dan

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                #8
                I don't think that's the OOTB plywood detail component, is it? Maybe it's just me, but I thought, like jsnyder said, that the default "plywood" component was actually a glu-lam pattern. But I don't have Revit in front of me at the moment, so I can't be sure. Is it possible that you are using a custom component for plywood?

                Arcturis
                BIM Manager
                Associate Architect

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                  #9
                  Thank you! That family is exactly what my boss has been looking for!

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                    #10
                    Plywood/Chevron

                    Originally posted by rosskirby View Post
                    I think that only works with model patterns, even though it's an available option for drafting patterns. I believe the plywood pattern is stuck horizontal; I've seen it on the wishlist for a while.
                    True. There is a model pattern called "chevron" which is similar to plywood. In fill patterns go to: model > new pattern > custom > browse > hit chevron.revit > and rotate/scale however you'd like. hope this helps

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