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    Question:
    What's the best workflow if you want to work on a model when you know in advance that you're not going to be able to STC? I am currently working on a project where I spend 3 days on location modelling a school. I work from my own office (aka attic) one day a week. It's not possible to connect to the main model from my office, the principal (in this case General Contractor) won't have it.
    Until now, I mostly used this day to create families and that kind of stuff for which I don't need the building model.
    But is there a way to safely model in a project if I already know that I won't be able to communicate with the central file? If so, what's the workflow?
    Martijn de Riet
    Professional Revit Consultant | Revit API Developer
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    Not a good scenario. But--you COULD Detach from Central, and bring a "copy" of the file with you on a flash drive or CD, load onto your machine,
    make edits, then bring it back to the "office" and copy/paste your changes into the "real" model. If you are the ONLY one doing this, and have it well organized and communicated with those back at the "office"--it can work. But setting up Revit Server and working via VPN would be a MUCH better way.

    Or at least have the ability to Remote Desktop onto a machine at the "office" from your house?

    Good luck.
    Cliff B. Collins
    Registered Architect
    The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects, St. Louis, MO
    Autodesk Expert Elite

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      #3
      Excellent suggestion, cliff. Just in case it's needed, here's an article about running a local Revit Server on Windows 7... http://do-u-revit.blogspot.com/2011/...s-desktop.html

      The Remote Desktop option might work depending on the graphic performance... can't hurt to try it. I haven't tried it, but there is way to accelerate RDP via http://www.ericom.com/ericom_blaze.asp.
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        #4
        You can *technically* Create a local the day before, and check out an entire workset (as owner, not borrower), and then close the local without relinquishing. You can open it at home, and it will tell you it cant find the central, but that you can work "at risk." You can then work on that workset, and *in theory* you can come back to work the next day, open that same local (you will have been saving locally, but not SWC from home), and hit SWC, and it is supposed to work.

        Would i do it? Not a chance. But it works.... in theory.
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          #5
          If you checkout the worksets in the local file, it is also important to checkout more than just worksets by selecting the additional 'show' options in the workset dialog giving you access to views, project settings etc.

          But if no one is using the file other than you, simply detaching from central would be the safest option
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            #6
            Right, little background:
            I've been hired by a building engineering company to model a school in Revit. They are hired by the General Contractor which is completely new to bim. And not very trusting. So anything which involves remote access of some kind is off limits. Truth is that we are on a separate network, disconnected from their own. We do have internetaccess but no freakin way there will be a Revit Server or remote desktop connection.
            The reason for asking is that I have been trying all above mentioned options and they failed. Some more gigantic then others.

            Guessing that working in a separate file (in which I linked my local file for reference), group and export the modelled stuff and import them when I'm connected to the CF is the safest option.

            Thanks for your ideas!
            Last edited by mdradvies; June 2, 2011, 03:37 PM.
            Martijn de Riet
            Professional Revit Consultant | Revit API Developer
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              #7
              Wow. Does not sound like a very collaborative/integrated delivery scenario!

              Why does the Contractor even need to "be in the model"???? I'd say just let me drive and we'll see you at bid day. LOL.

              cheers
              Cliff B. Collins
              Registered Architect
              The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects, St. Louis, MO
              Autodesk Expert Elite

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                #8
                Originally posted by cliff collins View Post
                Wow. Does not sound like a very collaborative/integrated delivery scenario!

                Why does the Contractor even need to "be in the model"???? I'd say just let me drive and we'll see you at bid day. LOL.

                cheers
                They're not! I'm working for one of the best BIM/IPD firms in Holland. And we're currently stationed at the contractor. They could care less. Just needs to be that way because they won the bid by fencing with fancypancy terms like BIM and IPD... We're just there in case the principal feels like walking in.

                Ah well, here's the workflow I'm currently following:

                1. Open local with Detach from Central.
                2. Create new worksets for all stuff I do when in my own office
                3. Model everything there
                4. Go back the next day, open the old file and my detached copy.
                5. In the detached copy, load only the new workset
                6. Copy/paste into the old file.

                Works ok, but is limited to modelling new stuff. Annotation or something like that cannot be done this way.
                Martijn de Riet
                Professional Revit Consultant | Revit API Developer
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                Planta1 Revit Online Consulting

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