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    how to add plasterboard to the column as finish layer?

    Hi there, as question is, i want to add plasterboard to the column, but how to make it so it could count as Finish (5) layer? so i could join plasterboard to internal plasterboard?
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    An OOTB tool is architectural column. But these is a compromise for me if the columns are structural. I usually put thin walls of plaster on the exposed interior face of the structural column using the pick line command and setting the plaster walls with core face interior as the origin line. Then you disallow join on the end for the perpendicular plaster walls that are not looking good, then move you the end where it should be (at the intersection with the real wall plaster) and then join again. Plasters material should be the same.
    Last edited by gaby424; May 16, 2011, 03:57 PM.

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      #3
      I use Architectural Column as a finish for my Structural Column. Just make the Architectural column bigger then the structural. Then
      use the "join" command in this order.... Join Structural Column to Wall then join Structural Column to Architectural Column.
      Hope this help.
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        #4
        Originally posted by Jun Austria View Post
        I use Architectural Column as a finish for my Structural Column. Just make the Architectural column bigger then the structural. Then
        use the "join" command in this order.... Join Structural Column to Wall then join Structural Column to Architectural Column.
        Hope this help.
        Hi Jun,

        Good to see you around. Always nice to see some of the regulars from the pre-nuke AUGI days.

        Cheers,
        Ian Kidston
        http://allextensions.com.au

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          #5
          Originally posted by Jun Austria View Post
          I use Architectural Column as a finish for my Structural Column. Just make the Architectural column bigger then the structural. Then
          use the "join" command in this order.... Join Structural Column to Wall then join Structural Column to Architectural Column.
          Hope this help.
          This is the intended workflow with Structural and Architectural columns.
          Jeff Hanson
          Sr. Subject Matter Expert
          Autodesk, Revit - User Experience

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            #6
            Arch columns and Struc columns together is a great tip!
            @JeffH: Why is this the intended workflow? I keep wondering why columns are not multilayered like walls! This is the correct thing imho...
            Revit Architecture - 3ds MAX Design - Octane Render - and many working hours...

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              #7
              Originally posted by JTB View Post
              Arch columns and Struc columns together is a great tip!
              @JeffH: Why is this the intended workflow? I keep wondering why columns are not multilayered like walls! This is the correct thing imho...
              Because the Structural Engineer needs to be able to not use the Architectural part of the column. When using 2 separate entities the Arch Column can be checked off in the Object Styles so it's not visible (or placed on a non-structural workset)
              Martijn de Riet
              Professional Revit Consultant | Revit API Developer
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                #8
                Originally posted by JTB View Post
                @JeffH: Why is this the intended workflow? I keep wondering why columns are not multilayered like walls! This is the correct thing imho...
                I am not exactly sure, that decision was made before my time on the development team, but Martijn makes a pretty good arguement.

                When a structural column is placed you can freely click where you want them to go, or you can use the "at grids" setting, to place a structural column at every grid intersection, or you can use the "at columns" setting to place a structural column at every architectural column instnace. So the UI is actually supporting and encouraging the workflow to use both architectural and structural columns together.

                This technique is shown in our column tutorial video.

                http://wikihelp.autodesk.com/Revit/e...lacing_Columns
                Last edited by JeffH; May 17, 2011, 02:03 PM.
                Jeff Hanson
                Sr. Subject Matter Expert
                Autodesk, Revit - User Experience

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                  #9
                  The way we do things here is this...
                  1. Make the building model (Architect)
                  2. Define the place and the size of the columns and beams (Str.Eng)
                  3. Update the arch model with the columns.
                  During the last stage, what I should see is the correct struct. cols but WITH plaster, because this is how they will finally be...
                  So, the struc.engineer doesn't even see the columns, on the contrary, he will tell us where to put them...
                  Revit Architecture - 3ds MAX Design - Octane Render - and many working hours...

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                    #10
                    This is a great thing to know. It bothered me sometime ago and while I solved it with thin plaster wall around the structural column It was too annoying to take care of all joins/disjoins.
                    But there is another similar thing: I have multi-layered brick walls with plaster as internal finish layer. Some 20 cm bellow the slab I have a reinforced concrete beam laying on the brick part of the wall. What can you suggest to use to cover this revealed part of the beam (between wall and slab)?

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