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    #1

    Jogged railing problems

    I have what should be a simple jogged railing that is misbehaving on me.

    In plan it looks great, but plan view is a 2D construct, not a live view of the 3D objects, so no surprise that it cleans things up. In elevation it looks like the horizontal segment is misaligned in two dimensions, and in 3D you see that it looks to be misaligned in all dimensions.

    In the configuration shown the two end segments are Slope: By Host while the middle segment is Slope: Sloped. If I do it Slope: Flat the corner on the right gets a little chamfer in it. WT...!??

    Anyone have a suggestion on what to look into now?

    Thanks,
    Gordon
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    #2
    It should be sloped:flat shoudn't it? Try setting the railing a little further off the wall to get rid of the chamfer.
    Dan

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      #3
      Could we see a little more... the stair maybe?
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        #4
        I tweaked things to get all three segments exactly the same (1.5") off the wall, and reset the middle leg to be Flat. No chamfer, but the same basic problems.

        Gordon
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          #5
          Can you post the stair and railing? 2011 right?
          Dan

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            #6
            These gives the gist.

            Thanks!
            Gordon
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              #7
              I think it's because of that offset. The top rail will be parallel to the landing, and the main rail will slope with the rise / run of the stairs. The elevation between those two points isn't parallel to the stair tread in real life, it's fudged. That's why you are getting the crazy miters.

              That's the problem. I have no idea how to fix it! :laugh: Let me work on it a bit.
              Dan

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                #8
                Well, I don't know how to get the small section at the offset to not be parallel to anything, so this is how it should be done IMO. There will be a small vertical piece to take care of the change in elevation.

                The first one puts the vertical piece on the inside corner. The second one on the outside corner. The second one is technically correct, but looks like carp. I'd go with the first one. It "hides" the vertical piece better.
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                  #9
                  Rep to you my friend. That certainly is more reasonable.

                  Thanks!
                  Gordon
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                    #10
                    Hi Gordon,

                    It can also be done without the vertical (attachment is in 2012 though). I've been fiddling somewhat but here's what I definately changed:

                    - Middle segment is set to Flat (not sloped)
                    - ALL offsets are set to 0 (also the ones in the baluster panels, don't know why but this seems to have some effect)
                    - Offsets sketchlines railing were not all equal
                    - Angled Joins set to Add Horizontal / Vertical Elements
                    - Hosted the middle piece to the landing and NOT the stairs
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