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**irneb** · May 20, 2013, 06:38 AM

It could be a situation of file locks not being released properly. Sometimes occurs if Revit crashes - i.e. the file becomes Read-Only. But usually a restart solves such.

Does this happen as you open the central file? Does it work if you open the local file directly, i.e. not letting Revit recreate it? Note if you open the Central, Revit "automatically" creates a local version - usually saved to your My documents folder (unless you've changed some settings). So if there's already one, it tries to overwrite it with a new copy.

**anthonyB** · May 20, 2013, 11:36 PM

We treat the Local file as a No-Value file and always open the Central file allowing it to create a new Local each time. It was this process that was not allowed to proceed.
We have had some file instability so that could have been the cause. Thanks for your reply.

**elton williams** · May 21, 2013, 02:38 AM

Originally posted by anthonyB View Post

We treat the Local file as a No-Value file and always open the Central file allowing it to create a new Local each time. It was this process that was not allowed to proceed.
We have had some file instability so that could have been the cause. Thanks for your reply.

I would strongly advise NOT to just click on your central file and let Revit automatically create/overwrite your existing local.
R>Open>Project> Highlight your central file (do not open), at the bottom of this window uncheck 'create new local', then proceed to open your central file. Once it's open do a 'save as' (with username suffix maybe) and save your local file to a folder of your choice.
The next day when you go through this process you can overwrite the previous days file.

**Twiceroadsfool** · May 21, 2013, 02:43 AM

No freaking way. Create New Local, each and every time we open the file.

**MPwuzhere** · May 21, 2013, 03:32 AM

Originally posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post

No freaking way. Create New Local, each and every time we open the file.

Found out someone at our office was reloading every day but going a week without creating a new local.....sigh...

And people wonder why they have issues with their models or long reloading times....

**Steve_Stafford** · May 21, 2013, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by elton williams

I would strongly advise NOT to just click on your central file and let Revit automatically create/overwrite your existing local.
R>Open>Project> Highlight your central file (do not open), at the bottom of this window uncheck 'create new local', then proceed to open your central file. Once it's open do a 'save as' (with username suffix maybe) and save your local file to a folder of your choice.
The next day when you go through this process you can overwrite the previous days file...

Why?? That is precisely what Revit does when you follow the "Create New Local" route without the extra steps or time wasted.

The last thing I want people doing is developing a habit that actually puts them in the central file, even briefly. Which is why so many people developed or used their own local file creating apps or scripts or copy/pasted the file in the first place. Autodesk merely provided a more direct way to generate a local file after seeing what users were doing. The next logical step is to make creating a local entirely transparent by only creating a local file and providing a more "secret door" to open a central file instead.

**elton williams** · May 21, 2013, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by Steve_Stafford View Post

Why?? That is precisely what Revit does when you follow the "Create New Local" route without the extra steps or time wasted.

The last thing I want people doing is developing a habit that actually puts them in the central file, even briefly. Which is why so many people developed or used their own local file creating apps or scripts or copy/pasted the file in the first place. Autodesk merely provided a more direct way to generate a local file after seeing what users were doing. The next logical step is to make creating a local entirely transparent by only creating a local file and providing a more "secret door" to open a central file instead.

OK, I understand the desire to keep users out of the central file and the convenience of a one-click approach, but I too have had those problems described in the OP. I was shown the method I described above by my previous manager, his way of thinking was that it also allowed you to save your local in a unique project folder rather than the default catch-all location. Seems apparent I should go back and K.I.S.S.?

**Twiceroadsfool** · May 22, 2013, 12:36 AM

The issue the OP is having isnt a "This button provided by Autodesk doesnt work so you need to find another way to make a local file," its more than likely a "something is going on right now, thats had. Like a network connectivity flicker, or an inaccessible file, or a permissions issue." Since thats the case, the fact that doing a Save As is working for you and its not failing is probably luck more than anything else. I imagine in those cases if you did a Save-As and happened to have the same bad luck timing, youd just get a "File Not Saved," warning instead.

Even before the CNL button, we did the older "Use windows explorer to manually copy the central to your local file folder, then open that," method.

Having someone open the central file is about the last thing i would ever do.

**elton williams** · May 22, 2013, 01:25 AM

Originally posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post

The issue the OP is having isnt a "This button provided by Autodesk doesnt work so you need to find another way to make a local file," its more than likely a "something is going on right now, thats had. Like a network connectivity flicker, or an inaccessible file, or a permissions issue." Since thats the case, the fact that doing a Save As is working for you and its not failing is probably luck more than anything else. I imagine in those cases if you did a Save-As and happened to have the same bad luck timing, youd just get a "File Not Saved," warning instead.

Even before the CNL button, we did the older "Use windows explorer to manually copy the central to your local file folder, then open that," method.

Having someone open the central file is about the last thing i would ever do.

Yeah I get all that, now it just seems what I was shown was simply to keep some sort of order in the users local folder system. I like Steve's suggestion "providing a more "secret door" to open a central file instead". Maybe password protection for opening central files would work? Even if it was ultimately hack-able it could stop perhaps 99% of user shenanigans.

I learnt another new thing today, thanks guys :thumbsup:

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