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    #1

    Column inside wall

    Hello everybody,

    Is there any possibility to make the column look like a whole?
    Is there a priority list in Revit?

    A workaround should be to make the wall from column to column, but I wonder if there is an easier way.

    Regards,
    Lucian.
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    Simply Join the Wall with all the columns (you can use Pick Multiple here). If all is well, the wall should be cut out by the column.
    If not, you should try to set the Wall Structure Layer to Substrate (it will most likely be set to Structural if it's not working)
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      #3
      Tried both your solution, but they doesn't seem to work. I even modified the material to be the same for both.
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        #4
        Strange, it does work for me. Could you post the project, or at least the part that's giving you problems?
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          #5
          Originally posted by mdradvies View Post
          Could you post the project, or at least the part that's giving you problems?
          That was the first thing that came to my mind after your first answer, but my project exceeded the 3.9MB limit. Now it's striped (without unused families) and here it is.

          Regards,
          Lucian.
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            #6
            Hi Lucian.

            I think the problem you are having is due to both view range and visibility. However, the various heights of walls, beams, and columns makes it nearly impossible to show every column as you'd like.

            For example, open plan view 1) Cota sup. radier and open the View Range dialog from the properties palette. Use the following settings:
            Top: (Level Above (2) Cota 0.00) Offset: 2.0000
            Cut Plane: (Associated Level (1) Cota sup. radier) Offset: 2.0500
            Top: (Associated Level (1) Cota sup. radier) Offset: 1.0000
            View Depth Level: Top (Associated Level (1) Cota sup. radier) Offset: 2.0500
            That sets the view plane between the concrete column and steel columns. You can then go to the Visibility/Graphical Overrides dialog and turn off hidden lines for walls.

            Click image for larger version Name: ColumnWallViewRange.png Views: 1 Size: 7.0 KB ID: 370696

            Another option would be to unjoin the columns to see the whole column, but the wall lines will still cut through the columns.
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              #7
              IMHO it's not a problem of view range settings. It's a default (and I think hardcoded) preset for structural views. Go to Cota 1.7, in de view properties set the Discipline to Architectural. That fixes it...
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                #8
                Good call!
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Kevin Dolley View Post
                  Good call!
                  Thanks, it just baffled me that I never seem to have this problem. Then I remembered that this is one of the main reasons that I don't use the Structural Discipline in my structural drawings. Instead I use a View Template with Filters.
                  Quick question though: I don't think so, but is there by any chance a way to override these default settings related to Discipline?
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by mdradvies View Post
                    IMHO it's not a problem of view range settings. It's a default (and I think hardcoded) preset for structural views. Go to Cota 1.7, in de view properties set the Discipline to Architectural. That fixes it...
                    It doesn't seem to work. Can you please post a screen shot?
                    I've done the following:

                    1) Click on Cota +1.70
                    2) In the Structural Plan Properties->Discipline
                    3) Change it to Architectural
                    4) <Now probably I have to change the View range too. I'm interested to see what's happening 5 cm above the foundation slab ("radier"). So, what my plan should show is: all columns concrete columns, all walls, no beams>

                    I tried the same to .Plan radier, but there is no change. Do I need to apply some default templates (Architectural)?

                    edit: It looks like the wall is cutting through the column. So when I overrides the hatches for column and walls, the walls goes above it.
                    edit2: I found an acceptable solution: hatch the walls and the column with diagonal up 1.5mm, override the hidden lines from wall and columns with lines made of points and set the detail level to "Course".

                    Click image for larger version Name: Porcarie v2.jpg Views: 1 Size: 33.5 KB ID: 370699
                    Regards
                    Lucian.
                    Last edited by lucis29; April 21, 2011, 10:19 AM.
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