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    1 number Key Note Tag

    Is there a way to make my key note tags like this while still having them in divisions?
    In the key note file I see categories / Divisions are divided up like so:
    01000 Division 01 - General Requirements
    The actual key notes being sub-categories like so:
    01530.A1 Temporary Dust proof Partition 01500

    I'd like to display only the A1 part in a keynote so that I get something that looks like my attached pdf.
    Is this possible?

    Another niggle. If I need to keynote something with more than one keynote, do I have to use the User Defined keynote?

    Ciao for now.
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    Originally posted by Gabriel Black View Post
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    I'd like to display only the A1 part in a keynote so that I get something that looks like my attached pdf. Is this possible?
    No, and there are not any functions available yet for the Revit user for trimming text strings. So if you want to display only "A1", that would have to be the actual keynote value.

    Another niggle. If I need to keynote something with more than one keynote, do I have to use the User Defined keynote?
    Yes, User defined.
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      #3
      Damn, and here I was hoping I could automate tagging a little more for HVAC ducting...
      Thank you for the help Mr. Medina!
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        Originally posted by Gabriel Black View Post
        If I need to keynote something with more than one keynote, do I have to use the User Defined keynote?
        Just curious.
        Why would you do that?
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          #5
          The company I work for has AutoCAD standards in place and would like to keep said standards.
          One of these standards is a titleblock with a pre-listed numerical legend for HVAC. So if your ducting is internally lined and flanged, you'd look on the legend and pick the corresponding numbers (say 7: Internally insulated & 25: Flanged ducting) and annotate the ducting with these numbers.
          I was hoping that with keynotes I could more readilly automate this tedious AutoCAD process which I might add is fraught with human error as it's quite easy to mis-lable an item.
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            Well, then, you don't need a keynote for that. Just a simple tag for mechanical equipment, with a letter or a number in it. You can put the letter or number in "type mark", and the description in "type comments", tag your elements, and then, make a schedule. Why keynotes?
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              The Keynote method.

              I simply thought it'd be less messy if you use keynotes since the legend (list of options) never changes.
              See, the problem is there's more than one legend number/description that can be attached to a single item. I'll post another picture to illustrate - it may be more self-explanatory, also the SHAPE of the tag changes with which contractor needs to do the work.
              If there’s no “automated” way to do this, that’s fine. I merely thought the keynote method may be of some assistance.
              I’ve mucked about with the regular tagging method with families etc. but can’t get to grips with making it any more automated than it already kind of is with parameters.
              See attached drawing produced in AutoCAD. It’s a template so I don’t forget which notes attach to what as a standard.
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                #8
                The solution is definitely not keynotes. What you need is a tag for mechanical equipment. It is just a special "stacked" tag. In cases where each of the components of the stacked tag has a different shape, you need one label, one shape, one parameter, and one visibility parameter for each one of the different sub-tags. In cases where the first and second tag have the same shape, as shown in your example, you need to use nested families for the shapes, so that you can swap the shapes with a family type parameter. See illustration for an idea. The nesting approach will work for the first case, too.
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                  Ouch! Brain-ache.
                  Okay, I kind of understand where you're going with this and see how it would work. I'll have a crack at it and most likely have more questions on the practical for this solution.:thumbsup:
                  In further investigation into keynotes, I can now see that their application is very specific.
                  Thank you again for all your help and yes, I will have more questions!
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                    Originally posted by Gabriel Black View Post
                    Ouch! Brain-ache...
                    I hear you, but... well, your tag is not a very common tag. It's like a multi-story tag! :laugh:
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