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    Vertical Face Based Family on a Slope??

    Is this even possible? Here's what I have.

    I have a vacuum system I'm modeling. It's fairly simple, I'm just showing a canister next to a pole. The problem is the pole welds to my roof members, which are on a slope. The slope varies depending on roof pitch.

    I was going to make a face based family and have the face be the top of the pole where it welds to the structural member, but how do I keep it vertical?

    I also thought of a floor based family since I always want the bottom of the vac to be 6'-1" from the floor. But then how would I get the pole to trim to the stuctural beam?

    Any ideas?
    Dan
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    Again, could you post a picture or sketch? I'm feeling a challenge coming up...
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      #3
      Originally posted by dzatto View Post
      Is this even possible? Here's what I have.

      I have a vacuum system I'm modeling. It's fairly simple, I'm just showing a canister next to a pole. The problem is the pole welds to my roof members, which are on a slope. The slope varies depending on roof pitch.

      I was going to make a face based family and have the face be the top of the pole where it welds to the structural member, but how do I keep it vertical?

      I also thought of a floor based family since I always want the bottom of the vac to be 6'-1" from the floor. But then how would I get the pole to trim to the stuctural beam?

      Any ideas?
      Never got anything like that to work without creating a manual input parameter for the slope... But would love to see how it´s done :Challenging Martijn:

      :beer:
      Klaus Munkholm
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        #4
        It is possible, but if the slope of the roof changes, you need to update that value in the family, so that you can make the sides be vertical and the top be horizontal again. Other than that, yes, it is possible.
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          #5
          I don't have the time right now but I am going to fiddle with this upcoming weekend. That said: I never got this to work in previous versions either, but maybe 2012 has the solution using AC's.
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            #6
            Wow, slope and counter slope?? How the heck did you come up with that?? lol I would have never guessed that in a million years.

            Martijn, I'm not real sure how to get you a picture or a sample. It's basically just like what Alf did in his attachment, except it will be hanging from the underside of the roof instead of on top of it. Then there is a round vac cannister strapped to the pole. That's about it.

            Does this attachment help? It's not showing the vacuum hose from the bottom, but you get the idea.
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              #7
              Yup, thanks. Question though: do you also need the bracing at the top side to keep attached to the roof members?

              Off course, Alf's solution is standing up (use this for chimneys) or hanging down depending on which face you apply it...
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                #8
                Originally posted by mdradvies View Post
                Yup, thanks. Question though: do you also need the bracing at the top side to keep attached to the roof members?

                Off course, Alf's solution is standing up (use this for chimneys) or hanging down depending on which face you apply it...
                I'd like them, but it's not anything that can't be shown in the detailing. The bracing is a piece of angle iron that is notched on both ends (one leg of the angle is cut off). The top side is bent to weld to the bottom of the beam, the other side welds to the side of the pole.
                Dan

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                  #9
                  Ok, I'll try to whip something up this weekend. I am going for a solution in which you don't need to add an angle but can suffice with aligning the top to the beam.
                  But let's make it an offical challenge due next monday... That way, I'm not the only one looking silly if it doesn't work.
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                    #10
                    LOL Okay, who makes it an official challenge. Alf?? Do you want to do the honors?
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