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    Struggling with this process...

    I'm struggling with the concept of using detail components and hope that someone here can set me straight. I do precast drawings, I've got the building modeled and need to do connection details. I've read that the best practice is to cut a section, then draw the detail (the connection) right on top of the section.
    I've done that and made a detail group. I see the group in the browser.
    When I go to a sheet view and try to place the group, I get a message saying "there are no detail groups available to place in this view"
    What am I missing here? Or am I on the wrong path entirely?

    We were doing all our connection details in cad....but everything I'm reading on the net says thats just the wrong work flow. I certainly agree this should be done within Revit...Obviously I'm missing something. Thanks in advance for any help/suggestions.
    "Two possibilities exist. Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not.
    Both are equally terrifying."
    - Arthur C Clarke

    #2
    Detail components and detail groups are two entirely different things.

    Detail groups are generally avoided IMO unless they related to model groups which is an entirely different storey

    Detail componenets on the other hand are 2D families which are scale specific that are added to a view to enhance the model elements

    You could also use detail componenets in drafting views as well which would create an entireley 2D detail

    The power of Detail Components is that you can make them parametric, meaning they can include different options within the single file, this can be broken further into sub types, and instance properties. You can also more easily control your detailing compared to using detail lines

    There is no limit to how simple or complex you can make detail components, you can also then take another step and nest your detail components straight into your model elements, for instance for precast detailing you could create a 3D dowel family that includes the 2D detail component when you cut a section

    See below for an example of the use of detail components

    Annotated Model Cut.png Model Cut.png
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      #3
      That's very nice Ben. I didn't know you could go that far in detailing in Revit.
      I suppose you can draw the reinforcement too, without making them in 3D.

      Lucian.
      Revit Architecture 2013 Certified Professional

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        #4
        Detail Groups are so helpful though for when you cut a wall section and then have details called out on that section (or really any place where you detail and then blow up the detail again). Then you only have to edit your detail once and it updates in both places. I make a detail group for each wall section, and then paste aligned into my enlarged details. (Some people in the office make a different detail group for each enlarged detail, but then you can't use the repeating CMU since an object can only be in one detail group and I want to make sure I know where coursing is.) It works splendidly.

        Are you sure when you created your Detail Group that you didn't include any model elements in it? Or that you didn't accidentally create it as a Model Group? Because when you click Create Detail Group it defaults to creating a Model group not a Detail group.
        Last edited by CBukowski; April 18, 2011, 11:25 AM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by lucis29 View Post
          That's very nice Ben. I didn't know you could go that far in detailing in Revit.
          I suppose you can draw the reinforcement too, without making them in 3D.
          There is an example of 2D rebar detail components, with parameters, in this other thread:
          http://revitforum.org/showthread.php...s-in-Families?
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            #6
            Originally posted by Defiant1 View Post
            ...When I go to a sheet view and try to place the group, I get a message saying "there are no detail groups available to place in this view"
            What am I missing here? Or am I on the wrong path entirely?
            ...
            Why are you going to a Sheet View to place the group?

            You'll place the section view on the sheet. The group is just the "clump" of detail components and linework you created that you want to use again, similar to an ACAD block.

            Go to another detail view. Place the group into the detail view. Align, and move it into the correct location. If there are changes to the group you need to make, decide if the changes are just in this one detail/section view or are the changes going to be the same for all the locations you placed the group? If the changes are everywhere, click on the group and choose Edit Group. If the changes are just in this one view, choose the Ungroup tool before making your adjustments. You can create another group (with a different name) if you're going to re-use this group of connections.
            Last edited by LeanneZ; April 18, 2011, 01:44 PM.
            Leanne Zaras, CDT, LEED AP
            AutoCAD 2010 Certified Professional / Revit Architecture 2012 Certified Professional / Revit Structure 2015 Certified Professional
            ACAD2021, RST2014-2021 / Windows 10, 64-bit

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              #7
              Thanks to all for the replies....I think I'm on to something now.
              Very helpful, I appreciate it.
              "Two possibilities exist. Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not.
              Both are equally terrifying."
              - Arthur C Clarke

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