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    #1

    Is there a way to bring new Stair into the project

    Just Starting with new Revit LT 2013
    (The Comparison chart from Autodesk lists the differences between LT and Full Revit as no Massing, Rendering and no multi user collaboration) Everything else should be the same!
    I'm using 'LT_USI_Residential-Default' Template for my project.
    In the Stair Family, I have a few options, but not the '7"max riser 11" tread' stair that is available in other Templates.
    Is there a way to bring that Stair Family into the Template?
    Maybe I don't know the 'workarounds', but none of the Stairs available in the above Template have changeable 'width' parameter under 'Dimensions' in the properties window.
    No matter what I do, all Stairs are first drawn 4' wide, and then I have to edit the width, but it's a pain since I get bunch of error messages and Landings often can't complete and needed to be manually added later.
    Even though the Type Properties list all stairs widths as 3' min., they still all draw as 4'.
    What's wrong with these Stairs?
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    #2
    Stairs are system families....so the easiest method of getting them from one project to another is to copy the stairs from the project that has the stair and paste it into the project that you want it in. Same goes for walls, ceilings and floors.
    Michael "MP" Patrick (Deceased - R.I.P)

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      #3
      Thank you MP,
      I got that now.
      Still can't figure out why any of the stairs I draw don't start as 3'-0" wide.
      First, I duplicated a Stair Type and edited the minimum width to be 4'-0".
      That went well. But then, all other Stair Types are starting as 4'-0" also.
      Second, I drew a stair and changed its width to 5'-0" (without editing the Type) and now all my stairs start as 5'-0" wide even though their Minimum width are all set at 3'-0".
      Do you know how to fix that?

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        #4
        Are you sure its not adding 6" wide stringers? perhaps you got your stringer settings backwards....
        Michael "MP" Patrick (Deceased - R.I.P)

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          #5
          No MP, that's not the case.
          I've done some experimenting with all 3 Templates provided with Revit LT. I start a new project and draw a stair. The stairs drew 3'-0", but if I select them for editing and trying to input new dimension, I get an error message: 'Can't change dimension segment to this value.' In addition, when selecting a stair, the Properties window, 'Dimensions' area does not have 'Width' parameter. Lastly, I've opened a Sample Residential Project that comes with the software. When an existing stair is selected, the Properties window shows Width as available parameter that I can change, but if I draw a new stair of the same type, the Width parameter is missing.

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            #6
            Yes you will get the error message trying to change the Tempory Dimension for width.
            Try this.
            Hover your cursor over you stairs (especially the treads) now hit the Tab button untill just the treads are hilighted then select them. Now in you properties box you will be able to change the "ctual run width" parameter (Width).
            The "Minimum Width" parameter is there just to confuse the hell out of you, all that does is gives you a warning message if you try and make a set of stairs narrower than that set in this parameter, you can accept the warning for the narrower width and revit will still let you make the narrower stair.
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            Last edited by mark b; February 24, 2013, 12:21 AM.
            Mark Balsom

            If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.

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              #7
              You are right Mark! That works!
              TG Down Under!
              Now, how can I fix this problem with all my stairs starting as 5' wide?
              Any ideas of what I did wrong?
              I'm almost certain that the sample project I'm using was drawn in Full Revit. Revit Lt is available for a few months.
              The existing stair 'acts normal' with Width parameter showing and changes workable.
              But if I draw a new stair, it 'follows' different rules: no Width parameter... Very strange.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Architex View Post
                Now, how can I fix this problem with all my stairs starting as 5' wide?
                Any ideas of what I did wrong?
                With stairs by components (new 2013) the default "Actual Run Width" is hard wired (1000mm in metric template), as far as I can work out I haven't been able to find it anywhere. (i would like if someone could tell me likewise).
                I learn't the hard way and went through the same process you did and started playind min. widths etc. and ended up in all sorts of trouble and could not get it to default back to hardwired width.
                You will find when you start a new project and accept the workflow with hardwired width, draw and then edit width you will be fine.
                Last edited by mark b; February 24, 2013, 07:10 AM.
                Mark Balsom

                If it ain't broke, fix it till it is.

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                  #9
                  Thanks Mark,
                  I've put a troubleshooting request with Autodesk Subscriptions. Let's see what they say. I'll post here once I get the answer.

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                    #10
                    Did you ever get a resolution to this problem? We are facing the same thing...

                    Thanks!

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