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    Handrail bracket

    Probably TMI but I'm working on a project that has a glass enclosed 5 story interior stairwell. The glass railing assemblies on the inside of the stairs are being modeled by others but the continuous height glass walls with attached railings and handrail brackets on the outside of the stairs are my responsibility. I've successfully created the glass walls using curtain wall panels and have added the stainless railing. Now I need to model the handrail bracket which is a custom shape and matches the bracket on the inside of the stairs. The company that did the inside railing model will not share Revit or Acad files so I'm left to do this from scratch.

    My question is this: as the bracket will attach to both a curtain panel face and a wall face would I use a Generic Model Face Based template for this family? I don't need to schedule these brackets so their category could be Generic Model?

    I have had trouble in the past selecting the correct template for family creation. I thought that I'd ask for input before I started this time...

    thanks for any assistance,
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    #2
    Originally posted by Dave Jones View Post
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    My question is this: as the bracket will attach to both a curtain panel face and a wall face would I use a Generic Model Face Based template for this family? I don't need to schedule these brackets so their category could be Generic Model?...
    Both of your assumptions are correct. Start with the Face-based generic model template.
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      #3
      Originally posted by Alfredo Medina View Post
      Both of your assumptions are correct. Start with the Face-based generic model template.
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        #4
        Originally posted by Dave Jones View Post
        I had a good teacher!
        haha, thanks! Feel free to keep us posted about the progress of your handrail bracket Revit family.
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          #5
          Originally posted by Alfredo Medina View Post
          haha, thanks! Feel free to keep us posted about the progress of your handrail bracket Revit family.
          will do although I'm sort of side tracked this morning trying to restore a Win7 backup of my stair glass wall model. My Win7 reinstall (after my hard drive crash of last week) doesn't want to recognize my backup drive. Argghhh!
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            #6
            I'm having a hell of time coming up with an efficient, flexible way of creating accurate, custom, code compliant railings in Revit. I'm currently trying to model the parts and pieces and put them in the project "bit by bit". However, I seem to have run into an issue. I have a face-based post family that doesn't seem to want to attach itself to the stair treads or landing. Anybody seen this before?

            Edit: It will attach in plan view, does not work in 3d view. But if your stair is cut in plan (i.e. you only see a few full treads) you can't place on treads above the cut plane. Which makes sense, but then you can't do it in 3d view, which doesn't make sense to me.
            Last edited by t1shep; September 6, 2011, 10:33 PM.

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              #7
              Just did a quick test, and have no issues placing a facebased family on stair threads (or stingers for that matter) in a 3D view... Could you strip down the project and post it?
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                #8
                Stairs are funny this way... Could very well not be recognized by the face based family. Did you try to repick the workplane?

                Dave: am I understanding correctly that the brackets are to be placed on each thread in a static offset from the thread supports? Or am I missing something. A face based generic model seems fine at this point to me...
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Munkholm View Post
                  Just did a quick test, and have no issues placing a facebased family on stair threads (or stingers for that matter) in a 3D view... Could you strip down the project and post it?
                  Get this...I copied the stair and post family to a new project...lo and behold, worked fine...
                  Thought that maybe it had to do with it being a multi-story stair, so I changed that with no luck. So, I tried to cut and paste back to the same spot. Still nothing...The other thing that I saw was different, my 3d view had a section box turned on (so I can actually see the stair.) Turn off the section box, hide some walls, and presto! I can place the family on the stair.

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                    #10
                    Go figure... Still had the test open, and just tried it again with a section box on the 3D view... Still no issues here :beer:
                    Klaus Munkholm
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