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    Help: I need suggestions on how to model this Chapel

    Hello Everyone,

    I've attached a view of a chapel that is currently modeled as two in place families, the roof being one, and the arched wall being the other, the flat walls on the ends are regular walls with the profile edited. There are two masses, to place the skylight, done as a curtain system.

    Now, I''d like to not have this as an in-place family, any suggestions on how I should go about it? The reason the wall is about 18" thick is we have 10" tube steel to form the arc.

    I'd like to do the details from the model and not just create a bunch of drafting views.

    Thanks for any suggestions!!
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    ~Elisa
    BIM Director, AC Martin
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    A couple of methods come to mind:

    1. Create Masses for the entire main form, then convert the faces to walls and roofs.

    2. Create the roof by extrusion, then create "end walls" and use Attach to Roof.

    This still doesn't get you the "curved profile walls"--which are best converted from a Mass.

    just my 2 c worth
    Cliff B. Collins
    Registered Architect
    The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects, St. Louis, MO
    Autodesk Expert Elite

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      #3
      Thank you Cliff.

      I had tried roof by face, from a mass, but I didn't like it. Roof by extrusion works best thank you!
      ~Elisa
      BIM Director, AC Martin

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        #4
        And the side curved walls can also be extruded roofs... with the same characteristics of other walls.
        That way vertical walls can all be attached.
        Gonçalo Feio
        "Ignorance, ignorance, sheer ignorance - you know there's no confidence to equal it. It's only when you know something about a profession, I think, that you're timid and careful." George Orson Welles

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          #5
          Originally posted by feio View Post
          And the side curved walls can also be extruded roofs... with the same characteristics of other walls.
          That way vertical walls can all be attached.
          True enough that you CAN make the curved profile walls with an extruded roof--
          however you may not want to if your model will be used for take-offs/quantities,
          or if you want the sections to read correctly and contain correct keynotes, etc. !
          Cliff B. Collins
          Registered Architect
          The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects, St. Louis, MO
          Autodesk Expert Elite

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            #6
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            Klaus Munkholm
            "Do. Or do not. There is no try."

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              #7
              Amen brother!!!!!

              and ya know, why SHOULDN'T we ask for it? I'd use it all the time. then all our designs will be curved. There goes the budget! LOL
              Cliff B. Collins
              Registered Architect
              The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects, St. Louis, MO
              Autodesk Expert Elite

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                #8
                Walls as roof extrusion? hmm that sounds interesting, if I can get it to look right in section, I won't have keynotes so that's not a problem. I'm not sure about take offs yet. When I do mass walls, and extruded roof, i'm not too happy with the end result. I attached an image.
                Click image for larger version Name: Chapel.png Views: 1 Size: 29.4 KB ID: 370495
                ~Elisa
                BIM Director, AC Martin

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Munkholm View Post
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                  Ditto!!!
                  ~Elisa
                  BIM Director, AC Martin

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                    #10
                    Yep. Building it in Revit is one thing. How it REALLY gets built is another. Looks like you need some curved beams now.
                    Luckily, you CAN make them in Revit!
                    Cliff B. Collins
                    Registered Architect
                    The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects, St. Louis, MO
                    Autodesk Expert Elite

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