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    Where did my metal deck go?

    We have a 6 1/4" slab --- 3 1/4" conc. on 3" composite metal deck.

    When I cut a section, I should see the deck profile. If I move the section around the slab, sometimes I see the deck, sometimes I don't. Where do you think my metal deck is hiding? (even turned off ALL links and set to Discipline: Structural)

    Any ideas?

    Now it's just playing with me. The place I originally cut a section (where the deck profile *was* showing, the deck no longer shows... going to try to get screenshots to post...)

    Got out of model, opened with Audit, and still having the issue...

    Deck Plan A shows where I cut Section A; the deck shows as I expect.
    Deck Plan B shows the EXACT SAME section cut, just moved to the left; my deck is not showing. I stretched the crop box up so I could see if the deck disappeared in the third floor also. This time it did not, but sometimes it does.
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    Leanne Zaras, CDT, LEED AP
    AutoCAD 2010 Certified Professional / Revit Architecture 2012 Certified Professional / Revit Structure 2015 Certified Professional
    ACAD2021, RST2014-2021 / Windows 10, 64-bit
    Tags: disappearing metal deck, metal deck profile, missing metal deck
    #2
    Is your deck direction correct? Is it assigned in both floors going the same direction?
    -Alex Cunningham

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      #3
      yes. I checked the deck direction. This is a large slab that covers 1/2 the building's floor plate. That's why I cut one section and moved it around (within the same slab's boundaries) and discovered the misbehavior.
      Leanne Zaras, CDT, LEED AP
      AutoCAD 2010 Certified Professional / Revit Architecture 2012 Certified Professional / Revit Structure 2015 Certified Professional
      ACAD2021, RST2014-2021 / Windows 10, 64-bit

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        #4
        Very strange. I can not duplicate the issue you are describing. Does it effect the printing at all? Maybe its just not regenerating the graphics on your screen???
        -Alex Cunningham

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          #5
          yes. The issue does affect printing.
          Leanne Zaras, CDT, LEED AP
          AutoCAD 2010 Certified Professional / Revit Architecture 2012 Certified Professional / Revit Structure 2015 Certified Professional
          ACAD2021, RST2014-2021 / Windows 10, 64-bit

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            #6
            First make sure that you deck is definitely perpendicular or parallel to the grids

            But following that I have often seen large areas of composite slab behave like this, especially with complex sketch lines.

            If you break into a few smaller sketches it should work fine

            Out of interest does this floor sketch fit on one sheet?
            Last edited by Ben-May; March 22, 2011, 09:50 PM.
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              #7
              Interesting thought about the slab not completely fitting on one sheet... But, no luck. This (misbehaving) slab fits on one sheet; the one that is behaving correctly *does* cross two sheets.

              I think you're correct that it may have something to do with the angle of the deck span and the complexity of the sketch. If it comes down to it, I may go ahead and break the slab into several pieces.

              For S's and giggles, I cut a section at the other side of the slab. In section view, the deck profile showed up. I stretched the crop box (toward the side of the slab where I want my section.) As I move that edge of the crop box, the deck profile appears and disappears. I cannot determine where it's going to decide to re-appear. I played with both edges of the crop box and I'm still at a loss for my original section cut.

              I just think it's kind of a pain to have to go to that section EVERY DAY and make sure my deck profile is going to show up before I print. Blah!
              Leanne Zaras, CDT, LEED AP
              AutoCAD 2010 Certified Professional / Revit Architecture 2012 Certified Professional / Revit Structure 2015 Certified Professional
              ACAD2021, RST2014-2021 / Windows 10, 64-bit

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                #8
                Have you filed a support request?
                Erik Snell, P.E.
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                  #9
                  Is your metal deck direction correct?
                  is it assigned in both floors going to the same direction?
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by pauljackson View Post
                    Is your metal deck direction correct?
                    is it assigned in both floors going to the same direction?
                    see posts #2 and #3 above.

                    This is a 6-month old post. At the time we were using RST2011. I did not contact Adesk on this issue. If you're also having an issue with this, look at Ben-May's post #6. I ended up breaking my "complex" slab (not fully rectangular, with jogs and angles all over the place) into smaller, more rectangular-like portions. This solved my issue.
                    Leanne Zaras, CDT, LEED AP
                    AutoCAD 2010 Certified Professional / Revit Architecture 2012 Certified Professional / Revit Structure 2015 Certified Professional
                    ACAD2021, RST2014-2021 / Windows 10, 64-bit

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