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    Dislocating n Auto Delete Slab

    I am facing a strange problem with Revit Architecture 2009.

    Currently I am working on a project which have 11 floors structure with 2basement floor.
    We almost finished all modelling and preparing a details drawings. Suddenly one of user found that the two basement and ground floor slabs are are automatically deleted.

    I checked a central file completely but I am not able to found it. So recovered a latest back up file in that these floors are available so I copied that missing floors from that file to our latest central file.

    In previous project we have the same issue at that time I thought it must be manually deleted so at that time I ignored.

    Generally we place all slabs under a different a workset which is non editable to other user.

    Another one issue with slab is dislocating from their positions. To avoid this generally I prefer to pin slab elements. After pinning the dislocations of slab is never observed.

    Do anybody have the same issue???

    What will be the reason for this issue??

    Any suggestion or workaround for this?
    Yogesh

    #2
    I'm going to vote on a accidental delete with this issue. There are a couple things that can put you in the situation to "accidentally" delete it, but I have yet to find an issue where items magically vanish, or that the Revit Gremlin sneaks in and erases random information.

    Sometimes simply moving a wall will cause a sketch to become invalid and would give you the option to delete. A "produce fresh" user would likely quickly hit ok and move on. Then a week down the road after the team has been working on it and someone finds it, it's tough to trace back without knowing what the actual step was that erased the item.

    Obviously I don't know what your staff skill are, but that's what I tell people in my office. "I know you don't think you did, but you probably did. Let's draw it back in and see what happens."

    We have had entire roofs vanish multiple times because someone moves it, and then in section it shows as a strange UFO in another users view. Well user #2 is getting ready to print and now they have a blob on their section, so the smoke it thinking that it's a rouge filled region.

    They always blamed it on the Revit Gremlin. . .so I changed my user name to Revit Gremlin. No issues with that Gremlin since. . .so maybe try that?

    hehe
    Last edited by Stuntmonkee; March 21, 2011, 06:37 PM. Reason: Cuz I proof read like blind man in a library
    Jasen Arias

    "Thats all I got for now."

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      #3
      I'm with Jasen on this one.
      Somebody's deleting your floors and not admitting it.
      We had a project a few years ago where the floors kept disappearing. Everybody denied deleting them.
      Eventually, someone admitted "I never deleted any floors, but I did have this line is my Wall Section that I didn't want to see. But it was just a line!"
      Ever since that day, when I'm teaching Revit, I tell people "That's NOT just a Line!" Very few items in Revit are "just a Line"

      If you really want to dig into it (and it's happened recently), you could look through the team's Journal files. I can pretty much guarantee you'll find a line that says something like:

      '************************************************* **********
      'CT [Modify | Floors]: ' {1} spacer_shr
      ' {10} Dialog_Essentials_SketchEdit-Boundary
      ' {312} Dialog_HostObj_SlabShapeMainEditorBar
      '
      'Cache:
      '
      '************************************************* **********
      '<<End build CT>>
      ' 0:< Delta VM: Avail -6 -> 8386878 MB, Used +4 -> 666 MB; RAM: Avail +187 -> 3702 MB, Used -2 -> 732 MB
      'E 21-Mar-2011 13:17:01.064; 0:<
      Jrn.MouseMove 0 , 669 , 473
      'E 21-Mar-2011 13:17:01.064; 0:<
      Jrn.Command "AccelKey" , "Delete the selection , ID_BUTTON_DELETE"
      Dave Plumb
      BWBR Architects; St Paul, MN

      CADsplaining: When a BIM rookie tells you how you should have done something.

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        #4
        A journal file is pretty stong evedence. I'm sure anyone using it that way would be very diplomatic, eh?

        Aren't the journals only saved on individuals' c: drives? (C:\Program Files\Autodesk\Revit Architecture 2011\Journals\). Or is it different with a workshared project?

        I suppose a script to copy journals to a central location could be used. (Just say "it's for the children...") But what about an application that reads journals and does something (like send an alert) whenever certain commands have been used?

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          #5
          Originally posted by Stuntmonkee View Post

          They always blamed it on the Revit Gremlin. . .so I changed my user name to Revit Gremlin. No issues with that Gremlin since. . .so maybe try that?

          hehe
          LOL.... ....I will follow U .
          Yogesh

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            #6
            Thanks a lot....I will check out journal files onwards...Hope it will works for me.
            Yogesh

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