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    Service Type and Phasing

    Okay,

    I have found an interesting issue I hope yall can shed some light on.

    I have a construction project, and we have modeled the pipework. Systems assigned correctly, etc.

    I wanted to make a legend of service types (as I have done in our ELEctrical containment model) as a previous phase (titled 'LEGEND') to colour pipes by system or template.

    Funny thing, when I set pipe to be created in this new phase and demolished in phase 'existing', all system data disappears and fittings become detached from each other?

    Any Ideas why? This is frustrating as #@%&!

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    That is just what phase demolished does to MEP elements. It should be changed but Autodesk doesn't care.

    I don't use phase demolished in Revit for MEP items. The only visual control thing I use worksets for is demolished items. We model everything in the correct phase in our main workset and the split items where needed and switch the demo items onto a demo workset. This allows us to use filters to control the line style.

    I'm not sure what your trying to do with creating a phase called "LEGEND".
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRapai View Post
    That is just what phase demolished does to MEP elements. It should be changed but Autodesk doesn't care.

    I don't use phase demolished in Revit for MEP items. The only visual control thing I use worksets for is demolished items. We model everything in the correct phase in our main workset and the split items where needed and switch the demo items onto a demo workset. This allows us to use filters to control the line style.

    I'm not sure what your trying to do with creating a phase called "LEGEND".
    I'm trying to create a legend of elements as the legend tool in Revit sucks (well it used to, its been a while).

    How do you create a legend of pipe service types by colour/pattern? I used filled regions

    Please excuse my MEPignorance.

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    Is this going on every sheet or just the reference sheet? It sounds like your printing in color, correct? If it's just a legend then why use pipe at all? I would just create it using line work. Even if it takes a little bit of trial and error, once it is set up you can throw it in your template and you're good for years.
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    I will second CRapai to just use 2D linework on the legend. If you are using colors and/or patterns for your pipes, they shouldn't be changing much - if at all - so once the Legend is complete, it's complete from your Template file for good.

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    Thanks for the suggestions. This is for a reference sheet only.

    I have used linework/filled regions for the pipework.

    Looks like we have a few years work out of the same client, so this shouldn't change any time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim West View Post
    Thanks for the suggestions. This is for a reference sheet only.

    I have used linework/filled regions for the pipework.

    Looks like we have a few years work out of the same client, so this shouldn't change any time soon.
    I mean, "technically", if the line pattern you're using for the pipes is the same as you're using in the Legend, then it'll be consistent if you change the line patter itself. This is open for debate, because some people use generic line pattern naming such as "Dash Dot" and others use specific system names such as "Domestic CW". If you use specific naming, then this will work out fine and the Legend can be forgotten about once set up.

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    In the next couple of weeks we're going to dig into our line styles and patterns. I'm leaning toward use-based naming rather than describing the pattern/style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRapai View Post
    In the next couple of weeks we're going to dig into our line styles and patterns. I'm leaning toward use-based naming rather than describing the pattern/style.
    This is the way I prefer. I think it does away with any confusion.

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    I tend to use a mix. Use Base where applicable, and some described by size colour for general use.

    On the linework front, using lines and filled regions doesn't represent pipes properly, as the geometry of a pipe masks half the line. Will work for now, yet not ideal.

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