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    BIM subs

    Any sub contractors out there? Would you work in a shared BIM360 model with the client's design modelers? What are the advantages/disadvantages? Thanks for any input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koolair View Post
    Any sub contractors out there? Would you work in a shared BIM360 model with the client's design modelers? What are the advantages/disadvantages? Thanks for any input.

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    well, I was a subcontractor before I retired on 1/1/19. I used BIM360 (previously C4R) for over two years on the bay area Facebook complex and shared models with two other curtain wall detailers/modelers, our customer, a commercial glazing firm, the Contractor and the Architect. From my prospective the process was 99% positive. BIM360 is, IMO, inexpensive, works well once you figure out the setup, and allows good project communication, and modeling by several people at one time. The 1% negative was the occasional cloud downtime that always seemed to happen in the middle of a major deadline for us. I still get the BIM360 cloud notifications and I think that even the down times are getting fewer and further between.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koolair View Post
    Any sub contractors out there? Would you work in a shared BIM360 model with the client's design modelers? What are the advantages/disadvantages? Thanks for any input.
    Just to clarify: A sub working in the actual design model and not creating your own model to share to the design team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheinaranta View Post
    Just to clarify: A sub working in the actual design model and not creating your own model to share to the design team?
    If you do that make sure you have a way to track your work so you can identify any changes, accidental or otherwise, to the model.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cheinaranta View Post
    Just to clarify: A sub working in the actual design model and not creating your own model to share to the design team?
    I've never heard of a project where the Architect would allow a subcontractor to work in their design model. Unheard of in my experience. Might be workable for a very small say, residential project. But that's not the types of projects that would normally lend themselves to using BIM360

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    I once had a user Copy a Subs content (under their direction to do so) into our own file instead of Linking (Sound/PA System Consultant), thus one of their "straight from the Mfr" content corrupted our file. Good thing for backups, lol. It was for a large Airport Terminal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheinaranta View Post
    Just to clarify: A sub working in the actual design model and not creating your own model to share to the design team?
    Yes a sub working in the mechanical contractor's cloud model along side their guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Jones View Post
    well, I was a subcontractor before I retired on 1/1/19. I used BIM360 (previously C4R) for over two years on the bay area Facebook complex and shared models with two other curtain wall detailers/modelers, our customer, a commercial glazing firm, the Contractor and the Architect. From my prospective the process was 99% positive. BIM360 is, IMO, inexpensive, works well once you figure out the setup, and allows good project communication, and modeling by several people at one time. The 1% negative was the occasional cloud downtime that always seemed to happen in the middle of a major deadline for us. I still get the BIM360 cloud notifications and I think that even the down times are getting fewer and further between.
    So, separate models linked into each others within BIM360?

    Also did your client allow you to append your own logo to the drawings you produced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cftrevizo View Post
    I once had a user Copy a Subs content (under their direction to do so) into our own file instead of Linking (Sound/PA System Consultant), thus one of their "straight from the Mfr" content corrupted our file. Good thing for backups, lol. It was for a large Airport Terminal.
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    Any ideas on protecting intellectual property?

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    Quote Originally Posted by koolair View Post
    So, separate models linked into each others within BIM360?

    Also did your client allow you to append your own logo to the drawings you produced?

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    yes and yes
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