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    Project Management & Labor Plans via Revit

    Hi everyone, I am considering get the PMs involved in the Revit process to extract the "I" in BIM as it relates to timelines.

    First off, I have never done this, but feel it ought to be part of the process.

    So...concrete pour breaks & schedules. I am an MEP guy, so we wait on the GC to provide this. Usually they send out an excel sheet along with pour breaks drawn manually into PDF and we have to do the following:


    1. Input the dates into a PM software to generate Gantt chart.
    2. Calibrate & measure pour breaks from grids.
    3. Draw pour breaks in Revit, convert to model lines.


    After a few weeks, they send a revision, then we have to do this all over again. Is there an efficient way to do this so revisions are quick and easy?

    Ultimately, for myself, I want to generate a labor plan so I know when to recruit, train, and bring modelers on board, and also...estimating man-hours. Any of you guys doing this sort of thing? Got any good resources, tips, etc?

    Cheers!

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    1. Dynamo to take concrete beams and columns and slabs and split the parts automatically based on pour breaks (model lines or reference planes).

    2. Any parameter editor of your choice to put pour information in to the Parts (not the original object)

    3. Use a scheduling platforms that is able to auto sequence based on model data, like Synchro.

    4. Filters, search sets, and drawings for pour plans and look aheads.

    No more manual work.

    Sent from my Phablet. Please excuse typos... and bad ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
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    4. Filters, search sets, and drawings for pour plans and look aheads.
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    I didn't know you could do search sets in Revit. Will look into that.

    I recently converted my pour breaks to model lines. Got me thinking of putting in all the room spaces and creating zones. I'm a little hesitant to do that because I'm afraid it could bog down my model. Have you experienced this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by koolair View Post
    I didn't know you could do search sets in Revit. Will look into that.

    I recently converted my pour breaks to model lines. Got me thinking of putting in all the room spaces and creating zones. I'm a little hesitant to do that because I'm afraid it could bog down my model. Have you experienced this?
    You cant. You make Filters in Revit. But anything i make Filters for, i make Navis Search Sets for.

    I have no idea what you are saying about Rooms and Spaces and Zones. For "pours?" Why would you want Rooms or spaces or zones for Pours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
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    I have no idea what you are saying about Rooms and Spaces and Zones. For "pours?" Why would you want Rooms or spaces or zones for Pours?
    So I can associate my MEP content with spaces and pull a list of stuff in each room (space). Wondering if using spaces will bog it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koolair View Post
    So I can associate my MEP content with spaces and pull a list of stuff in each room (space). Wondering if using spaces will bog it down.
    I personally would use Masses or Generic Models and Dynamo, for that. I would hate to butcher the Room/Space/Zone functionality of the real model, just to identify objects with Pours.

    Create a mass or GM on top of each Pour, and give it a parameter with data for which pour it is. Use Dynamo to see which objects are within the different pieces, and go from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koolair View Post
    I didn't know you could do search sets in Revit. Will look into that.

    I recently converted my pour breaks to model lines. Got me thinking of putting in all the room spaces and creating zones. I'm a little hesitant to do that because I'm afraid it could bog down my model. Have you experienced this?
    In the specific example of pour breaks, have you considered using a dedicated area plan type? The area boundary lines could represent pour breaks, and be graphically overridden as needed. Pours represented by areas.
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    subscribed....love to hear some more thoughts on how people are doing this

    Aaron, when is the last time you have revisited this? I don't know dynamo well enough yet to pull off what you are describing I'm guessing....BUT I have been waiting for a good excuse to dive into it
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    When is the last time i did it? About 3 weeks ago. What would i be revisiting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zsmith3 View Post
    In the specific example of pour breaks, have you considered using a dedicated area plan type? The area boundary lines could represent pour breaks, and be graphically overridden as needed. Pours represented by areas.
    Unless the desire is to see slabs broken down into pours, this is how I would* do it.


    *that is to say, if someone were paying me (extra-over) to - since this would not typically fall within an Architectural remit.
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