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    Black vs White Background

    Recently I ran into a Revit modeler who prefers a white background. I was like 🤣.

    But then he explained that color pdfs look exactly the same in the model vs paper so observers aren't confused when looking over your shoulder. He actually rarely does black and white since everyone uses Bluebeam.

    I prefer black for my eyesight and black's similarity with CAD and its pre existing color settings but this fellow raised a good point. But I were to change to white, I'd have to change some of my colors because they're very light.

    Is it worth it? Curious...

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    230/230/230.

    And every time i have to go in my Structural Engineers model (who uses a black background and has colors on everything) i want to claw my eyes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koolair View Post
    Recently I ran into a Revit modeler who prefers a white background. I was like 藍.

    But then he explained that color pdfs look exactly the same in the model vs paper so observers aren't confused when looking over your shoulder. He actually rarely does black and white since everyone uses Bluebeam.

    I prefer black for my eyesight and black's similarity with CAD and its pre existing color settings but this fellow raised a good point. But I were to change to white, I'd have to change some of my colors because they're very light.

    Is it worth it? Curious...
    I'd been using black background 33/40/48 recently, mostly for my eyes and I found it very confortable since I just have a new screen that is quite luminous , I think that using a black background is a good idea, but for the PDF's I'm agree with you: colors are most similar in withe background than in the black one


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    Its entirely preferential, but I made the change from black screen to white screen many years ago when I started using revit.

    I actually find the white screen a bit easier in some ways. Sure I don't have the color coding but this is the trap of trying to make revit look like cad. Its not, stop trying to make it the same interface. There is no need to put that many colors on your screen in revit because the thickness of the line is not handled by color coding as in Cad.

    If you want to see the thick lines then its there (personally I prefer to work with thin lines active so I can see errors in alignment) but if you need the visual reassurance all the time its there. Another reason I don't need color coded layers like in CAD is that I can easily interrogate an element if I'm unsure what it is. In fact in most cases I don't need to because I have a 3d model which verifies instantly for me "by eye" if the element I am seeing on screen is a wall, or a slab, or Something else. I mean this is the purpose of layers in CAD is to identify what it is thats drawn, this need is removed in the revit environment.

    The only colors I want to see on screen are the colors that are going to print on the page, the rest prints as black lines on a white page so I have a cloned image of what will print in front of me its much easier to manage. Also I have 100% confidence in my templates and material settings that line thicknesses are right, I don't need the crutch of color coded layers to reassure me that a yellow line is indeed a wall and that the yellow line will print at 0.35mm thickness.

    When you really break it down, the color coding is simply a visual verification that you have used the correct layer to indicate an element and in reality this breaks down to layer control (ie being able to mask layers by "category" - assuming your drafters have actually respected your layer conventions). This "need" is completely removed in revit. A wall is a wall, and will export as a wall and its up to you to control the thickness of the lines in your view templates but this is a one shot thing and actually your drafters using your Template will have no choice but to use your "layer convention" because it is forced to some degree by revit templates.

    The major problem with using color lines in revit is that you are forced to print in black and white. And then what happens when you want to actually put Something with color on your black and white plans? You can't...because you cant print one element in color (like a tag, or a note, or a logo) and print the rest in black and white. Its either color printing, or everything on the page black and white...
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    I've recently started use alternative colour backgrounds for (some of) my (working) 3D views; a dark slate-grey so that materials "pop", and a deep burgundy for "QA" views.
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    Sure I use color for working views to highlight coordination issues for example (3D), but these are not "production" views ie they never make it to a sheet, or an export file.

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    The best thing about a white background is it stops people using Yellow on drawings.

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    I use off white too, for eye strain. Especially with the use of 3d views, the white lines for edges is really distracting when I see a coworkers view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
    230/230/230.

    And every time i have to go in my Structural Engineers model (who uses a black background and has colors on everything) i want to claw my eyes out.
    This is the only way structural engineers should be using colors... IMO.

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    Or this - color is useful, but you arent going to use it the same way you did in autocad
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