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    Rotating Grid Bubbles?

    Hi everyone, I am rotating a floor plan viewport but I want my grid bubbles to rotate.

    Can't find it in properties or anywhere on the net. Anyone tried this?

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    You are rotating a viewport that contains a floor plan, and you want the grid bubbles to rotate?
    Can you please explain that with some images?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfredo Medina View Post
    You are rotating a viewport that contains a floor plan, and you want the grid bubbles to rotate?
    Can you please explain that with some images?
    My basic plan is "North is Up".

    But I have a detailed area of the plan that is taller than wider.

    Therefore, I duplicated view and put it on another plan. Then I selected that viewport and set it's rotation as "90 degrees clockwise".

    When I do this, my new detailed 1/4" scaled viewport is nice....rotated such that its aspect ratio matches the E+ sheet.

    However the grid bubbles won't rotate.

    Rotating Grid Bubbles?-rotate-viewport.jpg

    Edit: See at the top right corner there is a True North arrow. This plan you see here is rotated such that true north is now in the direction of bottom right and I will have to modify the Sheet family to reflect this.
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    I didn't realize it did that if you rotate the view on a sheet.

    Anyway, you can avoid this (I believe - unless your grid family is wonky) by rotating the crop region of the plan view, as opposed to rotating the view on the sheet.

    Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetragicjoy View Post
    I didn't realize it did that if you rotate the view on a sheet.

    Anyway, you can avoid this (I believe - unless your grid family is wonky) by rotating the crop region of the plan view, as opposed to rotating the view on the sheet.

    Good luck!
    huh...that's so cool. Thanks!!

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    I would suggest rotation crop / viewport when possible (which I've yet to find a condition that it is not) rotating view on sheets can lead down a rabbit hole of other items being rotated. If you rotate the viewport/crop text should stay consistent and oriented correctly, grid text I believe is included in this. As with all other tags and annotations.


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    Pain with the above I've found recently is it doesn't work when using scope boxes. We try to use scope boxes to standardise the crop on all the views. Unfortunately if you use a scope box then want to rotate the view, you cant use the rotate tool. only the drop down rotate on sheet option. But that has the knock on effect of rotating text / colour legends / grid bubble text / etc, as mentioned above.

    Only work around I found is keeping the scope box but not using it to crop the view. Just use the grips to crop views as close as possible to the scope box to try and bring the crops all in line. annoyingly though is this ends up being more effort and defeats the point of scope boxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountain1985 View Post
    Pain with the above I've found recently is it doesn't work when using scope boxes. We try to use scope boxes to standardise the crop on all the views. Unfortunately if you use a scope box then want to rotate the view, you cant use the rotate tool. only the drop down rotate on sheet option. But that has the knock on effect of rotating text / colour legends / grid bubble text / etc, as mentioned above.

    Only work around I found is keeping the scope box but not using it to crop the view. Just use the grips to crop views as close as possible to the scope box to try and bring the crops all in line. annoyingly though is this ends up being more effort and defeats the point of scope boxes.
    I've discovered in the past year or so that if you create a scope box in a regular plan (project north is up), then rotate that scope box, associating a view with that rotated scope box will rotate your view AND rotate your text and grid bubbles. Be careful though when using dependent views because any adjacent normal dependent view's text which is visible (overlaps) in your target view port will get rotated and will not look the same as it does in the adjacent normal view. Hope that makes sense.

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    Thanks. Will have an experiment with that after the weekend. Very rarely have a need to use dependant views so this might be the solution for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountain1985 View Post
    Thanks. Will have an experiment with that after the weekend. Very rarely have a need to use dependant views so this might be the solution for us.
    Heres the article that I learned this from. Many good uses for other view types as well btw:

    revittize.blogspot.com/2012/08/scope-box-hero-of-revit.html?m=1
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