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    Red lights; what category?

    Architect here, and for the first time ever I am seeing big blocks of red in the lights in the MEP link. It reminds me of the blue Analytical Model stuff from Structural, but I don't see anything similar under Lighting Fixtures. Is this a standard thing, or perhaps something goofy. My fear is the EE has a filled region in their family, but hopefully someone can shed a light.

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    Bldg in the nefarious Red Light District?

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    I hope not, its a Primary School!
    I even tried turning off detail components via the link, and that didn't work. Which leaves me thinking there may be a DWG in that light family! We are not going to worry for this print deadline (18 minutes from now but I will have to dig around in that family at some point and figure out what is going on.

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    Is it just one light? If not, maybe the lights are on a separate workset, which have been "colored" with the new features in 2012?

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    No, a mix of lights, but not all. It almost seems like it indicates lights on emergency power. Exactly the kind of thing that would make sense to build one way for the Electrical Engineer, and would totally not work for the architect to use the same graphic. Hopefully I can dig about next week.

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    Are they in 3D or just plain 2D? Maybe a nested detail component or a filled region?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon Price View Post
    Hopefully I can dig about next week.
    Why not just ask the EE? I'm sure they could tell you what it is and you could mention your concerns.

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    That is the plan now, but at the time we where in the middle of the final deadline, and I figured I actually had a better chance of getting an answer, if it was a simple one, here rather than there. Now that the deadline has passed, I will be digging around in the family to try to understand it, and then calling the EE to see what we can do from there.

    And a new best practice for teams. ALL graphic issues with consultant files should be solved by 50% CD. Seeing something that doesn't look right and just ignoring for months, only to bring it up during the printing of the bid set, is just not a viable answer.

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    We've had problems with some Families from our Electrical consultant.
    If they are using Subcategories, you cannot change the color. The Sub-cat doesn't even show in the V/G dialog.
    IIRC, you're OK under Lighting Fixtures but, for some of the more esoteric categories, like Nurse Call Devices, Data Devices, Sprinklers and a few others. The Sub-categories don't even show up in the V/G dialog box (no +), so obviously you can't change either the color or the Visibility unless you turn off the entire Category.
    (Yes, we do have "Show categories from all disciplines" checked - doesn't help)
    I submitted an SR on it quite some time ago, but no fix in 2012 yet.

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