Results 1 to 9 of 9
Like Tree5Likes
  • 2 Post By PijPiwo
  • 2 Post By Robin Deurloo
  • 1 Post By Andres Franco

Thread: New to creating familes

  1. #1
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    September 10, 2014
    Posts
    21
    Current Local Time
    05:26 AM

    New to creating familes

    So I am new to creating familes, and I am looking for some guidance on the best place to go to start learning about meat and potatoes of where to start. I know that there is so many different things that you can do with this but I just don't know where to start. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks you

  2. #2
    Senior Member PijPiwo's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 20, 2011
    Location
    Chicago, IL
    Posts
    787
    Current Local Time
    07:26 AM
    I'd recommend 'A Doors Life'. Great place to start and it's free.
    josephpeel and DavidLarson like this.

  3. #3
    Senior Member Robin Deurloo's Avatar
    Join Date
    July 7, 2011
    Location
    Rotterdam, Holland
    Posts
    959
    Current Local Time
    01:26 PM
    The first family I made during my training was a table. At first I was like "WTF are we making a table for, I want to make a building??!!" After a while I found out that the stuff you learn when making that table helps you with creating everything else. Ref. Planes, Parameters, Labels, but also the smart things to do and the bad things to do (over and over and over and over).

    Test, test, test is probably the best advise I can give you here. Set up your Ref. Planes with a few labels and test! Not just in your family editor, but also in your project. Then add more stuff and test again! This way you learn when and why stuff goes bad early on, because when you think you are done and only then test stuff and it breaks you basically have to start over again because you will never figure out what is wrong.

    And think of building a family as Bones, Muscles and Skin. Steve has a pretty good post about this in his blog: Revit OpEd: The Family Editor: Bones, Muscle & Skin

    The last bit of advise is that stuff will go wrong and you will be pulling your hair out once in a while for sure, but in the end you will start to understand why stuff goes wrong and be able to build families much better and quicker, without all the testing all the time. Once you get the hang of it you will build better families all the time understanding that putting in some time to build a good family instead of a quick one, will save you loads of time in the long run. Also many of the families you will build are never done and you will be adjusting and tweaking them all the time. For me that is part of the fun in building families, getting them to be better all the time. And if you turn out be become a freak like some of us, you will be using your family building skills for all sorts of non sense, https://www.revitforum.org/out-there...-families.html
    josephpeel and cganiere like this.

  4. #4
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    September 10, 2014
    Posts
    21
    Current Local Time
    05:26 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by PijPiwo View Post
    I'd recommend 'A Doors Life'. Great place to start and it's free.
    This is great thank you! Do you know of any videos that are out there? I am one to learn best with watching and doing vs reading. Also I will be able to watch them while I carpool on breaks and so on?

    Thank you again

  5. #5
    Senior Member Andres Franco's Avatar
    Join Date
    June 21, 2012
    Location
    Tours, France
    Posts
    815
    Current Local Time
    01:26 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by davezinger View Post
    This is great thank you! Do you know of any videos that are out there? I am one to learn best with watching and doing vs reading. Also I will be able to watch them while I carpool on breaks and so on?

    Thank you again
    there are a lot of videos in youtube, you just need to do a search by looking for the right criteria, lynda.com may be a good place to start, or even better the Revit Kid.com
    cganiere likes this.

  6. #6
    Senior Member PijPiwo's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 20, 2011
    Location
    Chicago, IL
    Posts
    787
    Current Local Time
    07:26 AM
    Yes, a lot of good stuff on youtube. I don’t know any particular video, but you can search for Paul F. Aubin’s tutorials. You cannot go wrong with Paul. He also has some great tutorials on Lynda.com – not free though.

  7. #7
    Senior Member Andres Franco's Avatar
    Join Date
    June 21, 2012
    Location
    Tours, France
    Posts
    815
    Current Local Time
    01:26 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by PijPiwo View Post
    Yes, a lot of good stuff on youtube. I don’t know any particular video, but you can search for Paul F. Aubin’s tutorials. You cannot go wrong with Paul. He also has some great tutorials on Lynda.com – not free though.
    yes, I'm agree, a quick search in youtube can lead him to good basic stuff for beginners, lynda classes are not for free you're right, and as already said Therevitkid.com will be a very good idea though

  8. #8
    Member
    Join Date
    February 22, 2013
    Posts
    288
    Current Local Time
    07:26 AM
    Aside from the graphical tutorials, a big part of MEP families is getting them to work with the duct, piping, and electrical power systems in your model. This means learning how connectors work, how to set the flow configuration, flow direction, system classification, etc. This can be very confusing at first. Each of the hard-coded parameters inside the connectors should be driven by parameters you've defined in the Family Types window.

    Which brings us to parameters. You'll need to start building your company's Shared Parameter file. These shared parameters are what your schedules will be reading from. (Even if you're not "there" yet, you will be, so do yourself a favor and start setting them up.) Try to be as logical and consistent with the naming/formatting as you can, because you'll be adding to this SP file indefinitely as you create more families, and pulling from it once you have it set up. Try to avoid having mulitple parameters doing the same thing, for example don't have "Max CFM" and "Maximum Air Flow". This will cause confusion, especially for other users.

    Lastly, start to understand formulas. Formulas allow for automation of design tasks, which for MEP engineers is one of the primary selling points for the whole BIM concept. In a nutshell, if you can write a formula in Excel to size something or perform a calculation, you can probably do it in a parametric formula. The syntax is different but the key concept is the same. You can do tons of stuff with them, for example: increase the diameter of a duct connection as the flow increases, calculate the leaving air temperature of a heating coil, calculate the electrical apparent load based on voltage and FLA, etc. As you get better at writing formulas, more applications will occur to you. The potential for automation and error-proofing are huge.

    This guide was invaluable to me when I started messing around with formulas: https://www.revitforum.org/tutorials...day-usage.html

    This guide on "Inconsistent Units" was very useful as well. Units matter in Revit and it will throw endless errors at you if you don't keep them straight in the formulas. Remember balancing equations in high school chemistry or algebra? This is the same concept. https://www.revitforum.org/tutorials...lize-them.html

  9. #9
    Forum Addict josephpeel's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 3, 2012
    Posts
    1,369
    Current Local Time
    01:26 PM
    Yeah its a steep learning curve but essential to using revit properly.
    You think you have figured revit out and then you open the family editor...
    You think you know how to make families and then you open the Adaptive Family editor...

    "I know one thing; that I know nothing." - Socrates

Similar Threads

  1. Batch renaming familes
    By Jozi in forum Architecture and General Revit Questions
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: June 17th, 2016, 07:50 PM
  2. batch editing of familes
    By KWilkinson in forum Dynamo BIM
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: May 25th, 2016, 06:53 PM
  3. footing familes
    By Darius in forum Structure - Family Creation
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: June 24th, 2015, 07:54 AM
  4. furniture familes sites
    By mona miller in forum Architecture - Family Creation
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: February 8th, 2014, 08:47 PM
  5. recherche de familes de portes
    By ivielor in forum Forum Français
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: August 12th, 2011, 11:57 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •