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    The big issue is that I payed for them to do the assembly and installation of Windows and in the end I spend more time trying to figure out what was wrong then it would have taken me to do the build and installation myself (I basically build and installed it all 2 times myself AND paid for them to do it in the first place). And I have a case fan that makes a ticking sound when it is not spinning.

    So I wonder what their reaction to this all is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon Price View Post
    Oh, man, this is a flashback. So, I think I know what's going on. There is a Windows behavior configuration done automatically at install, based on drive type, that cannot be (manually) changed post install. It involves how Windows interacts with the drive at a very low level, and if Windows is treating an SSD like an HD it really slows things down. The way it happens is when Windows is installed via an image, and that image was created from an HD based Windows install. Even though you have the right driver for the SSD, Windows will be interacting with that driver in a way that slows things down. I have seen this one time, 10 years ago when SSDs where new. It's one of the reasons I abandoned image based installs then and use NTLite for automating Windows installs now. I do think some cloning software handles this now, but for other reasons as well I prefer automated "real" install instead of imaging, which is what NTLite does. To this day I still think lots of the problems I had with HP Demo Pool machines in the RTC labs was related to the way they imaged the machines.
    Hey Gordon - do you have a source for that information? Might send it to our IT guys...

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    Send and email to the system builder explaining the issue and what could be the issue. They told me the machine was installed from a Windows USB stick and was a clean install, so no image. This makes it even more strange.

    The ticking fan I can return to get a replacement and the install cost I will get refunded.

    I know stuff can go wrong sometimes, which is OK, it is how you fix it that is the important bit and so far they do a good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Page View Post
    Hey Gordon - do you have a source for that information? Might send it to our IT guys...
    I had looked for something to link to, for just that reason. I had found the info 10 years ago with my stellar GoogleFu, as I had to prove to my IT guy it was his HD based image causing the problem. But I can't find any recent info, or even the old info. My Google fu has atrophied I guess.
    Interesting that Robin's system builder says it was a fresh install, but after Robin did a fresh install it works. Makes me wonder if the OS on the USB stick could have been some sort of OEM version only good for HDs or something?
    For what it's worth, I wouldn't buy a computer any more without factoring in doing my own fresh OS install from my own media. I still want the builder to install, as it acts as a system check and light burn in, but I'm still gonna do a fresh install myself starting about 5 minutes after first boot.

    Gordon
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    Well, in the end it all worked out (still looking at the ticking sound on the fans) and it is nice and fast.
    Below an image of the inside of the case, which I won't see often because there is no window panel.

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    The ticking can be a wire beneath the fan of the GPU, i had that once and bending it a little fixed the ticking.

    En als je niet kan vinden waar het tikken vandaan komt kan je met een leeg keukenrolletje luisteren waar het vandaan komt.
    Last edited by mjajansen; December 8th, 2018 at 06:27 PM.

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    Nope Marcel, it is all 3 case fans and only when they are not spinning. I have found a lot of posts in the internet about the same issue with various brands and types of fans.
    Send a message to Noctua (fan manufacturer) asking if this is indeed an issue with these fans.

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