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    New Revit build advice

    Hi.

    I've finally got around to getting some time to look into a new build for Revit use.

    Can someone have a quick look at this:

    https://www.playtech.co.nz/sharecart...EsMSwxLDEsMSJ9

    and let me know if there's anything that doesn't make sense.

    Note that I already have existing HDD's which I will be adding for storage.
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    At a glance, it looks fine. What was your thought behind choosing 8086k over 8700k? Also, I'd swap an air cooler for an aio water cooler for stability, low maintenance, and noise sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Needham View Post
    Hi.

    I've finally got around to getting some time to look into a new build for Revit use.

    Can someone have a quick look at this:

    https://www.playtech.co.nz/sharecart...EsMSwxLDEsMSJ9

    and let me know if there's anything that doesn't make sense.

    Note that I already have existing HDD's which I will be adding for storage.
    Well, this is a little tricky. On one hand it is a parts list with will work just fine but on the other I kinda feel like it is unbalanced. Is there a roadmap for the build or is the intent to leave it and run it like this without any planned upgrades going into it?

    Quote Originally Posted by cookitect View Post
    At a glance, it looks fine. What was your thought behind choosing 8086k over 8700k? Also, I'd swap an air cooler for an aio water cooler for stability, low maintenance, and noise sake.

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    Man that's an expensive rig for Revit. You trying to hit a minimum FPS rate while orbiting in a 3D View?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Needham View Post
    and let me know if there's anything that doesn't make sense.
    RAM, graphics and case. RAM should be 32GB. $170 case? For what? And why a $900 video card? Also, why is that processor $700? It's showing $400 in other places.

    I just think it's $1,000 more expensive than it needs to be, if not more, without any real noticeable difference in actual performance. This is a gaming rig, not a Revit rig. Spend your money - or your company's money - however you wish but if you're asking for some comments, well you have mine.

    -TZ

    *EDIT*
    Just realized the prices may be different due to geographical location. I was comparing US prices, my apologies in advance if I miscalculated that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by remiscs View Post
    Well, this is a little tricky. On one hand it is a parts list with will work just fine but on the other I kinda feel like it is unbalanced. Is there a roadmap for the build or is the intent to leave it and run it like this without any planned upgrades going into it?
    As far as the "unbalanced" goes, are you meaning there should be more Ram? Or something else?
    I only work on residential work, with files that aren't too large.

    I appreciate any advice you can offer, as I'm obviously not an expert in selecting computer components!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tzframpton View Post
    Man that's an expensive rig for Revit. You trying to hit a minimum FPS rate while orbiting in a 3D View?

    RAM, graphics and case. RAM should be 32GB. $170 case? For what? And why a $900 video card? Also, why is that processor $700? It's showing $400 in other places.

    I just think it's $1,000 more expensive than it needs to be, if not more, without any real noticeable difference in actual performance. This is a gaming rig, not a Revit rig. Spend your money - or your company's money - however you wish but if you're asking for some comments, well you have mine.

    -TZ

    *EDIT*
    Just realized the prices may be different due to geographical location. I was comparing US prices, my apologies in advance if I miscalculated that.
    Yep, NZD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by remiscs View Post
    Well, this is a little tricky. On one hand it is a parts list with will work just fine but on the other I kinda feel like it is unbalanced. Is there a roadmap for the build or is the intent to leave it and run it like this without any planned upgrades going into it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Needham View Post
    As far as the "unbalanced" goes, are you meaning there should be more Ram? Or something else?
    Kind of curious about the unbalanced comment myself.

    for what it's worth, here is the system we just ordered ($2,200 USD):
    Intel« Core™ i7-8700K 3.7/4.7GHz-1C Turbo Boost-Hi-Perf. Sealed Water Cooling Single Fan Radiator-12MB Shared L3 Cache 8 GT/s DMI3 Six-Core 8th Gen. 14nm w/Artic Silver« 5 Thermal Compound (Req. Z370 Motherboard)
    16GB DDR4 @ 3000MHz High Performance Aluminum Heat Spreader
    NVIDIA« GeForce« GTX 1070 OC 8GB GDDR5 VRAM PCIe - DL DVI-D/HDMI 2.0/DisplayPort 1.4 Outputs-Supports four monitors
    500GB Solid State Drive NVMe Mushkin PILOT™ M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 2680/1755MB/s Seq.R/W Shock Resistant 1500G.(Using 3D TLC Micron«)
    Genuine Microsoft« Windows« 10 Professional 64-bit Fully installed, configured and updated, includes original DVD media and COA
    MSI« Z370M MORTAR mATX Intel« Z370 Chipset for 8th Gen CPU-Military Class 5-2xPCIe x16(x16/x4 mode)-2xPCIe x1-to 64GB 4000+(OC)MHz DDR4 RAM-1xGbE LAN-4xSATA 6Gbs-2xM.2 Slot-HD Audio-7.1CH HD-6xUSB 3.0/USB 2.0-DVI-D-HDMI-DP-Micro ATX
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    My initial take was it was imbalanced because there was more money spent on the GTX card than the CPU. But after a little research I realized that Intel pricing is actually coming down a hair (Thank you ThreadRipper!). So, that 6 core turbo to 5GHz CPU really is cheaper than the (only slightly) overkill GTX 1080.

    The one thing I do wonder about is having a single 16GB stick of RAM in a dual channel mobo. My understanding has always been that paired dual channel RAM is faster than a single stick one or even two steps faster. So, a pair of 8GB sticks, with room to double that without waste might be faster now than a single stick of 16GB that allows expanding all the way to 64GB without waste. For small projects I suspect you won't need 64GB over the life of that machine. But I would probably also start with 32GB as 2 16GB sticks, and have the option to expand to 487 or 64GB in the future. Even for smaller projects I think 16GB is a little light. Especially with a 5GHz CPU, you can "over model" in ways that are actually beneficial to the project, as long as you also have the RAM to support it.

    But, that may also be bad info. Maybe @remiscs can shine in with something more concrete?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cookitect View Post
    At a glance, it looks fine. What was your thought behind choosing 8086k over 8700k? Also, I'd swap an air cooler for an aio water cooler for stability, low maintenance, and noise sake.

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    I chose 8086k because in another thread here recently, someone said why "wouldnt" you!

    And I'm open to cooler advice. I read on another website, cpuuserbench I think, that unless you're overclocking a lot, then air cooling is ok.
    Should I go to water cooling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon Price View Post

    ........

    The one thing I do wonder about is having a single 16GB stick of RAM in a dual channel mobo. My understanding has always been that paired dual channel RAM is faster than a single stick one or even two steps faster. So, a pair of 8GB sticks, with room to double that without waste might be faster now than a single stick of 16GB that allows expanding all the way to 64GB without waste. For small projects I suspect you won't need 64GB over the life of that machine. But I would probably also start with 32GB as 2 16GB sticks, and have the option to expand to 487 or 64GB in the future. Even for smaller projects I think 16GB is a little light. Especially with a 5GHz CPU, you can "over model" in ways that are actually beneficial to the project, as long as you also have the RAM to support it.

    ..........
    Thanks Gordon for that. I will do some more research into it.

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