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    Monitor Musings

    I've just checked, there's not been a monitor thread for some years (as best my search-fu can tell) and since I'm in the market for one (of my own), thought I'd see if any of you are rocking new kit and have anything to share?

    First off, I've bagged me a pretty sweet little rig! I have decided the living room can stay 1080p for now as I've no 4K movie or streaming plans - and it's more a last-gen console affair in there, so content with a Steam Link to join them. I have a cruddy 24" 1080p acer with a yellowish hue that needs sidelining. I'm keen to up my regular resolution. Said rig has a GTX 1080 and the Link was but a small part of a recent splurge on the Steam sale, so I intend to game. Ultra-wides appeal for my preferred FPS, old and new, but I'm not a competitive player so I'm not tetchy about ms. I enjoy movies a great deal, but they're not a primary as I've the living room. It must be a functional work screen. I must have as matte as can be. I admit I drooled a little when I saw Excel splayed across an ultra wide - all very easy to imagine building Dynamo graphs along the top half of one, with Revit running 1080p bottom left & Navis 1080p bottom right, etc...

    I have no experience of curved screens. I sit a long arms lengths from my monitor presently.

    Refresh rates and fps are lost on me, movies run at what 24fps? Why does your screen need to be any quicker than that?

    My current indecision is driven more by resolution/size, specifically scaling concerns - as I've not really had eyes on any of them, save the tasty 65" 3840x2160 we have at work, and frankly unusable-when-run-at-native-3840x2160 15" laptops.

    Generally, 1920x1080 was an easy format to grasp, as is 3840x2160. But all these "newer" 2560x1440, 3440x1440, 3840x1080, 3840x1440, 3840x1600 resolutions, not to mention "the real 4K" of 4096x2160, throw my head around.

    I've not had a fond scaling experience yet, and many owners/users/reviewers seem to be always noting (that, in discussions re: ultrawides) they are using scaling. Which to me seems to defeat the point entirely of all that extra real estate!?

    I've awful eyesight, but good glasses, and can happily work at 1920x1080 on my handbag laptop's 13" screen - and I've printed (for shame) 1:1 mockup desktops to get an idea of icon/text size (I'm too lazy to actually go to a store!) and 3840x2160 seems entirely readable at 100% from 27" upwards. But I am curious if any of you might confirm/refute otherwise?

    Now despite the last time I actually paid for a monitor was in 2000 for a 15" CRT I've still had a good old mince over this! And since I've never been a PartPicker kinda person, I make my own spreadsheets...

    Monitor Musings-capture.jpg

    All terribly basic despite first impression-aspirations to be clever, and really only on-paper point scoring accounting in no way for PQ noted in available reviews. I've also been lazy of late capturing response times, brightness, contrast ratio and panel types - so they're not considered in the VFM calculation and there is a clear bias for sheer real estate v cost. Still, it's been helping me somewhat.

    The 27" and 28" models (appear to) shine through again, with their even balance of size/res./price. I must confess to having a soft spot, despite it's score, for the 1600px vertical of the new Dell U3818DW, but it's price forces me to reason! I reckon I've space to accomodate all but the 65" and 43" in that screenshot (there are other, lowlier spec and pricer exotica, scoring themselves out of shot) - so size isn't really a limiting factor - and the child in me would like more than the 24" I have now.

    I am utterly incapable to making a decision.

    Help and advice most appreciated!

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    I work all day on Dual Dell 27" Ultra Sharps, at 2560*1440 (100% scaling.)

    If I had a 4k set of monitors, I imagine day to day I'd leave them in 2560, unless I went bigger than 32's. Honestly, I'd get a third 27 before I would do that, I think.

    I personally don't get the ultra wides or the curves. The last thing I want (ultra wide) is more width that creates more dead space in the ribbon of most programs.

    Curves... Well, I have a 70 inch TV in the living room. And unless I'm sitting within 3 feet of it I don't see a point to it being curved. Especially not something smaller than 40 inches sitting on a desk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
    I work all day on Dual Dell 27" Ultra Sharps, at 2560*1440 (100% scaling.)

    If I had a 4k set of monitors, I imagine day to day I'd leave them in 2560, unless I went bigger than 32's. Honestly, I'd get a third 27 before I would do that, I think.

    I personally don't get the ultra wides or the curves. The last thing I want (ultra wide) is more width that creates more dead space in the ribbon of most programs.

    Curves... Well, I have a 70 inch TV in the living room. And unless I'm sitting within 3 feet of it I don't see a point to it being curved. Especially not something smaller than 40 inches sitting on a desk.

    Sent from my Phablet. Please excuse typos... and bad ideas.

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    +1 on the Dell 27" USs. I have 3 of them now. Toolbars left, Revit center, RFO right

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    +1 too for the Dell 27"... I got to keep mine after leaving my former employer. I have a 29" LG widescreen but it is smaller height wise to the Dell and running 1080H.

    My 42" Vizio 4K is running 4096x2160, but games and Revit don't run well on it, so it's mainly used for movies and spreadsheets. I'd get a curved screen if it was running at 4k and great for gaming, but since the $1500 49" version on Amazon is a 1080 I don't see the point in spending that kind of money right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Jones View Post
    +1 on the Dell 27" USs. I have 3 of them now. Toolbars left, Revit center, RFO right
    Dude, how many toolbars do you have opened that they take up an entire 2560x1440? LMAO.

    Im so old school (with Revit) that i still have everything on one monitor. I rarely even pull my PB off, although i should. Mainly i dont because Bluebeam takes takes up the whole other monitor. I need to get a third for each desk.
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    I still keep my pb and pp docked either side of the one screen. Too many graphics drivers vs. Revit issues otherwise and i'm over fighting with IT. Pdf's and outlook on my second screen. 3rd screen would be handy but that's another fight with management..

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    We've been switching over to Dell P2715Q 4K displays and they're pretty awesome (they also have one of the best matte screens I've seen). Use whatever scaling is comfortable. They seem to need a somewhat beefy GPU... I probably wouldn't go with less than a nvidia GF 1060 GTX or equivalent, but still figuring where the sweet-spot is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
    Dude, how many toolbars do you have opened that they take up an entire 2560x1440? LMAO.
    well, I used to use that extra space space for porn but I'm to old for that now so Bluebeam is the substitute
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    Quote Originally Posted by iru69 View Post
    Use whatever scaling is comfortable.
    I know it's subjective, but how are they at 100%? The P2715Q has always been in the runnning.

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    I also highly recommend the Dell P2715Q. I have two at work and two at home and I've been switching over to them at work for our other workstations.. I feel 100% scaling would be too tiny for most people. I run at 200%. Once you go to 4k, non-4k monitors start to look really fuzzy.

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