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    RFO Benchmark 2013 results - Citrix Xenapp

    Here are some preliminary results run while 4-8 users are in a shared Citrix environment.
    Code:
    RFO Benchmark v10.29.2012 (RAC 2013) run at 3/11/2013 1:35:59 PM
    RevitForum.org
    
    
    Model creation and view export benchmark
    10.00  opening and loading the custom template
    35.00  creating the floors levels and grids
    59.00  creating a group of walls and doors
    100.00  modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
    38.00  creating the exterior curtain wall
    41.00  creating the sections
    21.00  changing the curtain wall panel type
    56.00  export all views as PNGs
    76.00  export some views as DWGs
    436.00  Total
    
    
    Render benchmark
    125.00  render
    
    
    GPU benchmark*
    51.00  refresh Hidden Line view - with hardware acceleration
    33.00  refresh Consistent Colors view - with hardware acceleration
    25.00  refresh Realistic view - with hardware acceleration
    18.00  rotate view - with hardware acceleration
    
    84.00  refresh Hidden Line view - without hardware acceleration
    72.00  refresh Consistent Colors view - without hardware acceleration
    71.00  refresh Realistic view - without hardware acceleration
    49.00  rotate view - without hardware acceleration
    
    * For Hardware Acceleration comparison only.
      Do not use the GPU benchmark
      for graphics card comparisons.
    
     
    MACHINE SPEC:
    OS: Microsoft Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter  64-bit
    
    CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz
    Max Clock Speed: 2.60 GHz
    CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz
    Max Clock Speed: 2.60 GHz
    Number of Processors: 2
    Number of Logical Processors: 32
    
    Total Physical Memory: 127.84 GB
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    
    Graphics Card: NVIDIA Tesla M2070-Q
    Graphics RAM: -1 MB
    Driver version: 9.18.13.783
    Graphics Card: Matrox G200eH (HP)
    Graphics RAM: 
    Driver version: 1.3.1.0
    
    Screen Resolution: 1024X768
    Benchmark was run full screen
    Screen Resolution: X
    Benchmark was run full screen

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    Citrix Xenapp T2- Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter

    Second test run, while 4-5 other users in a shared environment.
    Code:
    RFO Benchmark v10.29.2012 (RAC 2013) run at 3/11/2013 1:55:47 PM
    RevitForum.org
    
    Model creation and view export benchmark
    7.00  opening and loading the custom template
    22.00  creating the floors levels and grids
    37.00  creating a group of walls and doors
    67.00  modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
    24.00  creating the exterior curtain wall
    23.00  creating the sections
    11.00  changing the curtain wall panel type
    30.00  export all views as PNGs
    50.00  export some views as DWGs
    271.00  Total
    
    
    Render benchmark
    123.00  render
    
    
    GPU benchmark*
    24.00  refresh Hidden Line view - with hardware acceleration
    17.00  refresh Consistent Colors view - with hardware acceleration
    20.00  refresh Realistic view - with hardware acceleration
    11.00  rotate view - with hardware acceleration
    
    55.00  refresh Hidden Line view - without hardware acceleration
    44.00  refresh Consistent Colors view - without hardware acceleration
    43.00  refresh Realistic view - without hardware acceleration
    32.00  rotate view - without hardware acceleration
    
    * For Hardware Acceleration comparison only.
      Do not use the GPU benchmark
      for graphics card comparisons.
    
     
    MACHINE SPEC:
    OS: Microsoft Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter  64-bit
    CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz
    Max Clock Speed: 2.60 GHz
    CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz
    Max Clock Speed: 2.60 GHz
    Number of Processors: 2
    Number of Logical Processors: 32
    
    Total Physical Memory: 127.84 GB
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    
    Graphics Card: NVIDIA Tesla M2070-Q
    Graphics RAM: -1 MB
    Driver version: 9.18.13.783
    Graphics Card: Matrox G200eH (HP)
    Graphics RAM: 
    Driver version: 1.3.1.0
    
    Screen Resolution: 1024X768
    Benchmark was run full screen
    Screen Resolution: X
    Benchmark was run full screen

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    Citrix Xenapp T3- Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter

    Here is a third run (on a different date) while 4 users are in a shared Citrix environment.
    Code:
    RFO Benchmark v10.29.2012 (RAC 2013) run at 3/13/2013 8:49:45 AM
    RevitForum.org
    
    Model creation and view export benchmark
    8.00  opening and loading the custom template
    23.00  creating the floors levels and grids
    39.00  creating a group of walls and doors
    72.00  modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
    31.00  creating the exterior curtain wall
    27.00  creating the sections
    18.00  changing the curtain wall panel type
    40.00  export all views as PNGs
    73.00  export some views as DWGs
    331.00  Total
    
    
    Render benchmark
    121.00  render
    
    
    GPU benchmark*
    27.00  refresh Hidden Line view - with hardware acceleration
    19.00  refresh Consistent Colors view - with hardware acceleration
    21.00  refresh Realistic view - with hardware acceleration
    15.00  rotate view - with hardware acceleration
    89.00  refresh Hidden Line view - without hardware acceleration
    67.00  refresh Consistent Colors view - without hardware acceleration
    65.00  refresh Realistic view - without hardware acceleration
    48.00  rotate view - without hardware acceleration
    
    * For Hardware Acceleration comparison only.
      Do not use the GPU benchmark
      for graphics card comparisons.
     
    
    MACHINE SPEC:
    OS: Microsoft Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter  64-bit
    CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz
    Max Clock Speed: 2.60 GHz
    CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz
    Max Clock Speed: 2.60 GHz
    Number of Processors: 2
    Number of Logical Processors: 32
    
    Total Physical Memory: 127.84 GB
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    
    Graphics Card: NVIDIA Tesla M2070-Q
    Graphics RAM: -1 MB
    Driver version: 9.18.13.783
    Graphics Card: Matrox G200eH (HP)
    Graphics RAM: 
    Driver version: 1.3.1.0
    
    Screen Resolution: 1024X768
    Benchmark was run full screen
    Screen Resolution: X
    Benchmark was run full screen

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    Citrix Xenapp B1- Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter

    These are baseline tests with no other users in the Citrix environment. Model creation and GPU benchmark with hardware acceleration are notably faster when there are no other users.
    Code:
    RFO Benchmark v10.29.2012 (RAC 2013) run at 3/8/2013 9:38:32 AM
    RevitForum.org
    
    
    Model creation and view export benchmark
    7.00  opening and loading the custom template
    21.00  creating the floors levels and grids
    36.00  creating a group of walls and doors
    59.00  modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
    22.00  creating the exterior curtain wall
    22.00  creating the sections
    10.00  changing the curtain wall panel type
    27.00  export all views as PNGs
    44.00  export some views as DWGs
    248.00  Total
    
    
    Render benchmark
    114.00  render
    
    
    GPU benchmark*
    23.00  refresh Hidden Line view - with hardware acceleration
    17.00  refresh Consistent Colors view - with hardware acceleration
    18.00  refresh Realistic view - with hardware acceleration
    11.00  rotate view - with hardware acceleration
    
    53.00  refresh Hidden Line view - without hardware acceleration
    42.00  refresh Consistent Colors view - without hardware acceleration
    41.00  refresh Realistic view - without hardware acceleration
    30.00  rotate view - without hardware acceleration
    
    * For Hardware Acceleration comparison only.
      Do not use the GPU benchmark
      for graphics card comparisons.
     
    
    MACHINE SPEC:
    OS: Microsoft Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter  64-bit
    CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz
    Max Clock Speed: 2.60 GHz
    CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz
    Max Clock Speed: 2.60 GHz
    Number of Processors: 2
    Number of Logical Processors: 32
    
    Total Physical Memory: 127.84 GB
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    
    Graphics Card: NVIDIA Tesla M2070-Q
    Graphics RAM: -1 MB
    Driver version: 9.18.13.783
    Graphics Card: Matrox G200eH (HP)
    Graphics RAM: 
    Driver version: 1.3.1.0
    
    Screen Resolution: 1024X768
    Benchmark was run full screen
    Screen Resolution: X
    Benchmark was run full screen

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    Citrix Xenapp B2- Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter

    Second baseline test with no other users in the Citrix environment. Model creation and GPU benchmark with hardware acceleration are notably faster when there are no other users.
    Code:
    RFO Benchmark v10.29.2012 (RAC 2013) run at 3/8/2013 10:16:12 AM
    RevitForum.org
    
    
    Model creation and view export benchmark
    8.00  opening and loading the custom template
    23.00  creating the floors levels and grids
    37.00  creating a group of walls and doors
    60.00  modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
    22.00  creating the exterior curtain wall
    24.00  creating the sections
    11.00  changing the curtain wall panel type
    32.00  export all views as PNGs
    43.00  export some views as DWGs
    260.00  Total
    
    
    Render benchmark
    114.00  render
    
    
    GPU benchmark*
    23.00  refresh Hidden Line view - with hardware acceleration
    17.00  refresh Consistent Colors view - with hardware acceleration
    19.00  refresh Realistic view - with hardware acceleration
    11.00  rotate view - with hardware acceleration
    
    84.00  refresh Hidden Line view - without hardware acceleration
    69.00  refresh Consistent Colors view - without hardware acceleration
    66.00  refresh Realistic view - without hardware acceleration
    46.00  rotate view - without hardware acceleration
    
    * For Hardware Acceleration comparison only.
      Do not use the GPU benchmark
      for graphics card comparisons.
     
    
    MACHINE SPEC:
    OS: Microsoft Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter  64-bit
    CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz
    Max Clock Speed: 2.60 GHz
    CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz
    Max Clock Speed: 2.60 GHz
    Number of Processors: 2
    Number of Logical Processors: 32
    
    Total Physical Memory: 127.84 GB
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card: NVIDIA Tesla M2070-Q
    Graphics RAM: -1 MB
    Driver version: 9.18.13.783
    Graphics Card: Matrox G200eH (HP)
    Graphics RAM: 
    Driver version: 1.3.1.0
    
    Screen Resolution: 1024X768
    Benchmark was run full screen
    Screen Resolution: X
    Benchmark was run full screen

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    Citrix Xenapp B3- Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter

    Third baseline test run on a separate day with no other users in the Citrix environment. Model creation and GPU benchmark with hardware acceleration are notably faster when there are no other users. Will post results when we have a full production environment in place with 20-30 concurrent users in this shared environment.

    Code:
    RFO Benchmark v10.29.2012 (RAC 2013) run at 3/9/2013 8:44:54 AM
    RevitForum.org
    
    
    Model creation and view export benchmark
    10.00  opening and loading the custom template
    17.00  creating the floors levels and grids
    34.00  creating a group of walls and doors
    60.00  modifying the group by adding a curtain wall
    21.00  creating the exterior curtain wall
    17.00  creating the sections
    11.00  changing the curtain wall panel type
    28.00  export all views as PNGs
    44.00  export some views as DWGs
    242.00  Total
    
    
    Render benchmark
    119.00  render
    
    
    GPU benchmark*
    20.00  refresh Hidden Line view - with hardware acceleration
    15.00  refresh Consistent Colors view - with hardware acceleration
    18.00  refresh Realistic view - with hardware acceleration
    10.00  rotate view - with hardware acceleration
    
    45.00  refresh Hidden Line view - without hardware acceleration
    36.00  refresh Consistent Colors view - without hardware acceleration
    34.00  refresh Realistic view - without hardware acceleration
    26.00  rotate view - without hardware acceleration
    
    * For Hardware Acceleration comparison only.
      Do not use the GPU benchmark
      for graphics card comparisons.
     
    
    MACHINE SPEC:
    OS: Microsoft Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter  64-bit
    CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz
    Max Clock Speed: 2.60 GHz
    CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz
    Max Clock Speed: 2.60 GHz
    Number of Processors: 2
    Number of Logical Processors: 32
    
    Total Physical Memory: 127.84 GB
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    : 16.00 GB @ 1600 MHz
    
    Graphics Card: NVIDIA Tesla M2070-Q
    Graphics RAM: -1 MB
    Driver version: 9.18.13.783
    Graphics Card: Matrox G200eH (HP)
    Graphics RAM: 
    Driver version: 1.3.1.0
    
    Screen Resolution: 1024X768
    Benchmark was run full screen
    Screen Resolution: X
    Benchmark was run full screen

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    Fascinating stuff Markus - thanks for sharing!

    This so far seems to reaffirm my perception that these "shared" hardware setups just slow everyone down and there's a loss of productivity that would be difficult to make up in the hardware savings. And I'm still struggling to understand how the hardware costs per user of individual workstations is such an economic hardship for AEC firms in the first place. Looks like the server makes a great rendering machine though!


    Last edited by iru69; March 13th, 2013 at 06:07 PM. Reason: removed note about splitting thread off from main benchmark thread.

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    Took care of it Iru.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iru69 View Post
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    This so far seems to reaffirm my perception that these "shared" hardware setups just slow everyone down and there's a loss of productivity that would be difficult to make up in the hardware savings. And I'm still struggling to understand how the hardware costs per user of individual workstations is such an economic hardship for AEC firms in the first place. Looks like the server makes a great rendering machine though!


    I agree that shared environments are tricky. Although we cannot disable rendering, we have a message pop up reminding users that rendering will affect everyone else. The message encourages users to render on their workstations or the cloud rendering. Furthermore, raytracing will grind the system to a halt.

    The shared environment can also be hard to monetize, because users soon learn that they have "unlimited" resources. One would be able to open Revit more than once. It can also encourage unbearably large models, whereby Revit.exe is using
    more than 15gb RAM. It can encourage bad habits.

    The advantages are administration, resources and mobility. With Citrix, you only have to update a master image for Revit and its plugins. You save time from updating each workstation, even if it is automated through SCCM. The other benefit is resources. When you assign a workstation or laptop to a user, it is a dedicated device, which may not be used 16 hours of the day, 100 days of the year. Because Citrix can be a shared environment, you can size it for the maximum number of concurrent users. If your office has 50 designers, the peak usage may only be 40 users at any time. You would therefore size the Citrix to accomodate 40 users; instead of buying 50 laptops.

    Furthermore, Citrix supports mobile users, working from home, off site, or a hotel. You could access Revit from an Android tablet or iPad from outside of the office. Our designers enjoy the flexibility of being able to work from home, on their < 500$ home computer.
    Last edited by Markus; March 15th, 2013 at 10:02 PM. Reason: Added advantages of using a shared resource

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    Looking at your results with interest since we are considering going the same idea. Did you ever get around to trying a large number of users on the system to measure performance ?

    Regards

    Roger

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