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    Pipe Fittings

    I am modelling some pipework on a project and the main corridor has a slight change in angle (approx 2°). This is causing a problem for my pipe run as Revit doesn't seem to let the bend in the pipe fitting go below 5°. You can see from the attached image that the lowest angle revit will show and the actual angle of pipe I need.

    Despite having created a new pipe fitting (using the standard as a starter) so that I am able to play around with angles without having to ruin the other bends in the project. After playing around with it within the family I created we are able to get the angle to anything down to 1° however when I insert the family into my project Revit somehow forces it to not go below 5°.

    Has anyone come across this before? and if so how did they fix or workaround it? I hope my post makes sense.

    Thanks in advance

    MWatts12
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    There is one thing to keep in mind when creating a design model - constructibility. For the particular issue here the type of connectors commercially available on the market needs to be considered. These vary depending on the pipe material. The materials obviously vary depending on the system type. You can still ignore this and just model the design intent and leave it up to the contractor to construct the pipe run as he is able, but in my opinion that is the less desirable option. Even if in this instance you were to model welded pipe connectors (where the end of the pipe sections and fittings can be cut to any angle desired, this makes the install way more expensive than using out of the box fittings only. The best choice for a one or two degree angle shift is grooved end connectors, which can be intentionally misaligned. Regardless of what you model the contractor is going to try and rearrange the system for the lowest possible legal cost install.

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      #3
      Originally posted by MWatts12 View Post
      After playing around with it within the family I created we are able to get the angle to anything down to 1° however when I insert the family into my project Revit somehow forces it to not go below 5°.

      MWatts12
      (For visual representation) If you've created a family that can handle the 2° angle, then your next best bet would be to change the 'Pipe Connector Tolerance' to the 'Value' of 1°, under Manage>MEP Setting>Mechanical Settings>Pipe Settings. Though i have not tested this myself, so good luck.

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        #4
        FYI - i was able to do the test successfully with a 3° elbow after changing the Pipe connector Tolerance, though it wasn't straight forward. First i changed the Pipe Type Properties, Fittings, Elbow to my 3 Degree Elbow from the Generic Elbow to override the auto solutions. Then i had to first draw the pipe on a 5 degree angle. Lastly i grabbed the end connector and pulled down the pipe to 3 degrees, which seemed to have worked. Hopefully you'll find a better approach.
        Last edited by Mattmoot; October 20, 2011, 10:38 PM.

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          #5
          Having no luck replicating this trick. Trying to get a 1:40 fall on a pipe and revit won't allow it. Any ideas?
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