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    Hosting Families to Arch Model on Sloped Ceiling

    Hi,

    I work for an MEP firm that hostes families to the arch model within our model. Our hosted families consist of the 3D familiy with an annotation family built in. We have been having trouble with hosting faced based families to sloped ceiling where the 3D object shows the the annotation in plan view. To avoid this we have been using reference planes instead of hosting to the actual model. Is it possible to host to the sloped ceiling and still have the plan view only show the annotation and if so, how? Any help is appreciated

    #2
    One way of doing this is to have a family which is 'Always Vertical' so that the annotation is always perpendicular to the view and can be seen. Then for the 3D part of the family you host it on a rotating workplane inside the family and set it to the angle of the sloping ceiling with an instance parameter.
    "One must imagine Sisyphus happy." Albert Camus - "The innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may ​do well under the new." Nicolo Machiavelli -"Things that are too complex are not useful, Things that are useful are simple." Mikhail Kalashnikov

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      #3
      If you copy the ceiling from the architectural model and then paste aligned to your MEP view the objects will host to the ceiling. You might even be able to copy/monitor the ceilings now, I can't remember if that option has been added to newer versions of revit or not.

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        #4
        Originally posted by josephpeel View Post
        One way of doing this is to have a family which is 'Always Vertical' so that the annotation is always perpendicular to the view and can be seen. Then for the 3D part of the family you host it on a rotating workplane inside the family and set it to the angle of the sloping ceiling with an instance parameter.
        This is what I've been doing... only backwards from how you describe. Content is built on the default workplane in the family and the shared/nested GA (which I think it has to be but not certain right now) is loaded and placed on a pair of rotating Reference Lines (not planes) -- one line for plan, the other for vertical angle.

        This method assumes content placement is more important than symbol placement but, honestly, the other way probably makes more sense.
        Greg McDowell Jr
        about.me/GMcDowellJr

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          #5
          There is also a solution using Adaptive Families. There is the option for a sub-component in an adaptive family to be 'vertical on placement' even if the main family is at angle. Although using lots of adaptive components in you project just for this is probably not advisable.
          "One must imagine Sisyphus happy." Albert Camus - "The innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may ​do well under the new." Nicolo Machiavelli -"Things that are too complex are not useful, Things that are useful are simple." Mikhail Kalashnikov

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            #6
            I (and some of our clients) are using our adaptive lighting/ outlets/fire/ security families: seem to be no problems. It means that they work on any sloping surface automatically, including domes - which is quite hard to work out the slope if using the manual way
            Alex Page
            RevitWorks Ltd
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              #7
              Thank you all for your responses. You all have great ways of working I am going to try the different ways and see which works out best for the company!

              Thanks again

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