Converting a door family to a curtain wall door

[DavidLarson]

Is there is a relatively easy (i.e. fast) way to turn a door family into a curtain wall door family? I made a bunch of doors similar to Aaron's with all the nested families, shared parameters and time spent. If possible I'd rather not have to make a new door family from the frame inward

[Twiceroadsfool]

Not that i know of. And FWIW i had to build them very differently. Constrained different, a few different parameters, and different Frame Families, to be correct for SF/CW applications.

[DavidLarson]

OK thanks. I thought that would be the case.

[snowyweston]

The only way to do it is to model your children families so that they can be used by both hosting applications from the ground up.

[Dave Jones]

The only way to do it is to model your children families so that they can be used by both hosting applications from the ground up.

I don't understand this comment, can you expand the thought a bit?? To me, curtain wall doors don't have "children families" except for additive things like door hardware items

[GMcDowellJr]

Children families as in shared nested leaves and frames, I think.


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[snowyweston]

Exactly Greg.

[Twiceroadsfool]

FWIW I use the same nested shared panels and hardware. If your frames do the actual wall cutting (and have wall frame profiles modeled accurately) they won't be the same for cw, so you'll need different frames.

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Aaron Maller
Director
Parallax Team, Inc.

[snowyweston]

I took my doors to v.34 last weekend (!) and have yet to fully implement an approach that caters for both, but I've had planned for another time. With the intent that the frame wouldn't cut, (being more like the panel) - where I'd have a cutting child for basics. I push-down so many parameters from the parent, that it'd just be connecting the two child.

Tail wags dog? Almost certainly.

[Twiceroadsfool]

It wont work, worth a damn.

Not if you have complex shaped frames that arent simple rectangles. (Partial sidelights, partial transoms, etc). Because its not information "pushing" from the Parent family down to the frame: Its the frames selection making that distinction. Unless you want to end up with a redundant "Cutter selector," which (imvho) would suck.