Shared parameters Issues

[JCM]

Is there a way to delete shared parameters from a label within an annotation family?
I'm trying to better organize some of my families and I need to have a shared parameter with the same name as one in the family but I cant find a way to delete the existing ones that I inserted the first time around.

Also does anyone else find it annoying that if you create a shared parameter and made a spelling or similar mistake, you cant just edit the shared parameter and have it update. you have to delete it and create a new one, even if you didn't even use the parameter yet?

[Munkholm]

Not sure, but I believe that the Extensions from the the subscription center will do what you´re asking for... ?

[JCM]

Thanks, I'll check it out

[mark b]

These guys have a handy FREE app for managing shared paramaters, tidying up backups etc.. well worth a look.

http://www.cadtechnologycenter.com/ctc-products.html?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=21&category_id=1

Might not help your situation but for future reference, and worth downloading just for "delete backup" app

[Munkholm]

Just found some more info on the extension at the Revit Clinic - I´m afraid it won´t do much, or any, of the stuff you´re after, but check it out anyway

[mdradvies]

Is there a way to delete shared parameters from a label within an annotation family?
I'm trying to better organize some of my families and I need to have a shared parameter with the same name as one in the family but I cant find a way to delete the existing ones that I inserted the first time around.

Also does anyone else find it annoying that if you create a shared parameter and made a spelling or similar mistake, you cant just edit the shared parameter and have it update. you have to delete it and create a new one, even if you didn't even use the parameter yet?

Well, SP's are ment to stay. So that might be a problem. But it can be done, I believe. And fairly easy: Edit the label, select the SP you wish to remove, press the button with the arrow pointing away and it's out of the label. Then select the parameter which you want inserted, press the arrow pointing to the label field and insert it.
If this isn't what you're after, please post an example for better reference.

As for modifying the SP's:
Each SP get's a GUID (I believe this is short for Global Unique ID). This is, as the name states, an unique code. Between the time you created the SP and want to alter it, it COULD be you send the SP file to other people. Revit has no way of checking that. The whole system of SP's is based on the fact that once created and distributed parameter X will ALWAYS have the same GUID and is thereby always useable in schedules, tags etc. No matter who uses it, at what point. When you get a project using the same SP's as you are, you can tag, schedule and use them. Changing this SP to another name would compromise this.
So annoying: yes, but it's simply part of the deal. In Holland, the Revit User Group defined a set of SP's for national use. We talked all resellers (who also create the localisers) into using this SP-file. Everyone is free to use extra, but if you use SP's with a name or function already defined in the RUG's template, you use that one. This ensures that on a basic level different libraries will by exchangable.

[JCM]

Martijn,

Thanks for the explanation. Although I understand the idea of GUID, the problem I have is that when I'm creating the shared parameter, I don't even exit the dialog and it still forces me to create a new parameter to change something like spelling. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be too difficult for revit to recognize that I haven't exited the shared parameters dialog, therefore pretty impossible for me to have shared the parameter with someone else.
Even thought its the the way it should work, I still find it pretty annoying.

[mdradvies]

I know, have the same problem a lot of times. You would think they would run out of GUID's very fast with all the mistypes (wrong category, also happens to me a lot)

I actually don't really know when the SP is written to the file, is this "live" or when you exit the SP Dialogue Box?

[JCM]

I was just wondering, what happens when you delete one and add a new one.. couldn't that just be an automated process when you click modify?
I mean they give you the button that says modify.. yet everything is grayed out... so maybe there is something I'm missing?

EDIT: Realized that there is no MODIFY Button, the one I was referring to is PROPERTIES so My mistake :hide:

[Munkholm]

I know that the sharedparameters.txt says "This is a Revit shared parameter file. Do not edit manually."
But if you´re just looking to delete a parameter, I think that it´s safe to delete the corresponding line in the .txt file.