Section markers and cut planes

[dzatto]

Why would the section markers be affected by the cut plane? That just seems odd to me. Can someone explain this to me?

Actually, I just looked at my plan again. It's not the cut plane, it's the bottom plane.
So if my bottom plane is at 4', but I want my section to only show the bottom 2 feet, it disappears in the plan view. I guess I can see why, but if I want a section there, I want it there! lol

[Chadwick17]

If you have a section that only 'exists' 4' to 7' A.F.F. and your cut plane is at 3'-0" and top of primary view range is below that range that your section is in, it won't show. Whether this is a design feature or a bug I think is up to the user workflow...

[dzatto]

If you have a section that only 'exists' 4' to 7' A.F.F. and your cut plane is at 3'-0" and top of primary view range is below that range that your section is in, it won't show. Whether this is a design feature or a bug I think is up to the user workflow...

:laugh: well said! It seems like it could be both.

[Chadwick17]

I guess I can see why, but if I want a section there, I want it there! lol

This is a good question though. If I have my cut plane and view range exactly where I want it and I have a section marker that falls in that area outside of the primary range is my only solution to create a plan region so I can see my section marker?

[dzatto]

This is a good question though. If I have my cut plane and view range exactly where I want it and I have a section marker that falls in that area outside of the primary range is my only solution to create a plan region so I can see my section marker?

That's exactly what I'm thinking. Either that or raise the view area of the section. Fortunately, I was able to lower my bottom plane without affecting anything. But, I can see where this would be an issue. Plan regions are nice, but I like to limit the amount I put on a drawing if I can. lol

[JeffH]

This is a good question though. If I have my cut plane and view range exactly where I want it and I have a section marker that falls in that area outside of the primary range is my only solution to create a plan region so I can see my section marker?

In this case a plan region will not allow the section marker to be seen. Some portion of the crop box of the section must be in the primary view range of the plan or it will not be visible.

For your example problem the only way I could get this to work was to split the section box of the section view and then drag the lower portion of the split into the primary view range of the plan.

I can't see the particular situation you have presented as comming up too often. In most cases I think the primary view range could be adjusted without a problem.

[dzatto]

Thanks for the explanation Jeff. It just seemed odd to me as I'm new to Revit. I'm still getting used to all of its little quirks. lol

[Chadwick17]

...I can't see the particular situation you have presented as comming up too often....

I agree that it would be a rare case for the problem to arise. Thanks for posting - this will prevent me from spending time trying to get it to work a certain way when it can't.

[mdradvies]

Well, the view range defines ALL model elements you see in a view. Why would this be different for a section marker? Although the section marker is an annotation object, it directly links you into a 3-dimensional object, namely the "window" through which you look at the model.
If this view "window" is outside the range, you won't see it. I don't think that's a quirk, it's just what the view range does, crop all model elements outside of the designated range.

[JeffH]

I don't think that's a quirk, it's just what the view range does, crop all model elements outside of the designated range.

Yes, I would say this would be what we call at the factory "as designed" behavior. Does not mean it could not be improved upon, it just menas this is working the way we expected it to work.