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    Moving half a building

    Hello forum

    I've been challenged today, with the task of moving roughly half a building ~200 mm to the right and up a notch. The building is five stories high, groups are used to constrain things like kitchen casework and other furniture, and walls which are only one story high.

    The :banghead: started this morning when I started moving this beast. It wouldn't budge, think I tried everything (besides moving one wall at a time ) I don't like to use the Disjoin option, because it messes up everything.

    Well, my question is, HOW to move large chunks of a building without messing up sections and stuff..? Any tips and/or hints and I will be grateful ..

    Any takers? :beer:

    #2
    Just fudge the dimension.......err.....wait. This isn't Acad.

    The problem is, some things are, no doubt, constrained to move within the work plane only. So, you can only move left/right or up/down. Not both. I think that's why you can't just select and move the building.

    As for sections and details, as long as everything is moving (including the markers) I think it will be okay. Unfortunately, I think you'll need to wait for some of the resident guru's on this one. They are probably :coffee:, right now. :laugh:
    Dan

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      #3
      Great challenge.

      1. "Split" all the walls where you are going to "saw the building in two". This "disconnects" them from the "other half" that will stay in the current position.
      2. Select everything in the portion of the building that has to be moved.
      3. Create a Group out of the "select all" content. ( may have some errors due to the Groups already in the model; may need to Ungroup them? )
      4. Link it out as a new Project.
      5. Link it back into your main Project, and place it in the new position.
      6. Bind it back into the Project.

      good luck. no "easy way" to do it.
      Cliff B. Collins
      Registered Architect
      The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects, St. Louis, MO
      Autodesk Expert Elite

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        #4
        Wow, all that for "200mm and up a notch". They probably should have told you the correct position in the first place. :hide:
        Dan

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          #5
          Quick question: how could one move half the building? What happens to the other half???

          My take usually:

          3D View -> Top View -> Everything turned on in V/G Overrides -> Select all -> Move
          OR
          3D View -> Top View -> Everything turned on in V/G Overrides -> Select all -> Cut to Clipboard -> Paste (now you can specify displacement from the base point.
          OR
          Save As -> Delete everything you don't need to move. Save -> Open original -> Delete everything you do have to move -> Link in "Save As" -> Bind
          Martijn de Riet
          Professional Revit Consultant | Revit API Developer
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          Planta1 Revit Online Consulting

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            #6
            A long tome ago, in a galaxy far away, I suggested "The Saw Tool" for just this purpose. We already have "The Hammer Tool" for demolishing things, so why not give us "The Saw Tool" so we can chop our models apart easily--vertically, horizontally, and--(You guessed it ) even Tilted!

            Place a Reference Plane--adjust it however you want to "saw", click the Saw Tool and there you have it. Two "chunks" of models. Cuts right thru Links, imports, you name it.
            Cliff B. Collins
            Registered Architect
            The Lamar Johnson Collaborative Architects, St. Louis, MO
            Autodesk Expert Elite

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              #7
              Originally posted by dzatto View Post
              This isn't Acad.
              Much as I love Revit, a Stretch command is the one thing I miss from DinoCAD.
              Dave Plumb
              BWBR Architects; St Paul, MN

              CADsplaining: When a BIM rookie tells you how you should have done something.

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                #8
                I might go about this a different way. First, Group everything you want to move. (You will have nested groups of the stuff you already grouped). Then save the Group out as an RVT file. Next (and this is the scary part, so I'd try this on a "saved-as" model) deleted the group from the original project, so you are left with just the portion that isn't moving. Purge out the deleted Group. Then, Link in the RVT of the moving portion back into the file, and position it as needed, up and to the right. then Bind the Linked file back into the project when its at the right position.
                Scott D Davis
                Sr. AEC Technical Specialist
                Autodesk, Inc.
                http://bit.ly/aboutsdd

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by cliff collins View Post
                  Great challenge.

                  1. "Split" all the walls where you are going to "saw the building in two". This "disconnects" them from the "other half" that will stay in the current position.
                  2. Select everything in the portion of the building that has to be moved.
                  3. Create a Group out of the "select all" content. ( may have some errors due to the Groups already in the model; may need to Ungroup them? )
                  4. Link it out as a new Project.
                  5. Link it back into your main Project, and place it in the new position.
                  6. Bind it back into the Project.

                  good luck. no "easy way" to do it.
                  Thanks a bunch Cliff, this sounds like it might just work, will give it a try tomorrow

                  Originally posted by dzatto View Post
                  Wow, all that for "200mm and up a notch". They probably should have told you the correct position in the first place. :hide:
                  Yes, indeed they should, but as always, when the deadline is nearing, things are overlooked.. :hide: The building has some crazy angles and the rooms need to fit exactly in the corner. Look at the picture.

                  Originally posted by mdradvies View Post
                  Quick question: how could one move half the building? What happens to the other half???

                  My take usually:

                  3D View -> Top View -> Everything turned on in V/G Overrides -> Select all -> Move
                  OR
                  3D View -> Top View -> Everything turned on in V/G Overrides -> Select all -> Cut to Clipboard -> Paste (now you can specify displacement from the base point.
                  OR
                  Save As -> Delete everything you don't need to move. Save -> Open original -> Delete everything you do have to move -> Link in "Save As" -> Bind
                  Martijn will give this a try if Cliffs suggestion fails, thanks..

                  Originally posted by cliff collins View Post
                  A long tome ago, in a galaxy far away, I suggested "The Saw Tool" for just this purpose. We already have "The Hammer Tool" for demolishing things, so why not give us "The Saw Tool" so we can chop our models apart easily--vertically, horizontally, and--(You guessed it ) even Tilted!

                  Place a Reference Plane--adjust it however you want to "saw", click the Saw Tool and there you have it. Two "chunks" of models. Cuts right thru Links, imports, you name it.
                  This would have been a nice feature! Definitely!

                  Anyway, for those interested I've posted a sketch of the building and the partition needed to be moved.

                  Once again, thanks for the replies, very appreciated.. :beer:
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                    #10
                    this thread is great! i've never had to move half of a 5 storey building but i've had to do it plenty of times with houses...food for thought, thanks people!:beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:
                    There are no stupid questions, only stupid people

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