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    How i can make the doors and windows is stretchable in plan view?

    Hi everyone, as i followed tutorial in youtube. i found the tutor said he can stretch this door type from plan view , how we can make it in other doors and windows and what is this type of door is in revit ?
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    #2
    the width is an instance parameter rather than a type parameter. But using this technique can produce doors with odd, non-typical dimensions.
    Scott D Davis
    Sr. AEC Technical Specialist
    Autodesk, Inc.
    http://bit.ly/aboutsdd

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      #3
      well, i changed the type of door from type parameter into instance parameter - the arrow appeared but width doesn't change when stretching the arrow .
      it is moving only any explanation
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        #4
        First, be sure you are actaully clicking and dragging on the arrow. The middle space between the arrows is usually best to pick on. if that doesn't work, you need to make sure you change the Width parameter to an instance parameter. Also, the reference plane thats associated with the width might need to be changed in properties to "Strong Reference".
        Scott D Davis
        Sr. AEC Technical Specialist
        Autodesk, Inc.
        http://bit.ly/aboutsdd

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          #5
          ahmed;
          I couldn't find the tutorial you reference, but we should mention that the "Variable" door with an instance parameter is NOT the way doors are typically done in Revit.
          A typical Revit Door family will be one Family for each Geometry (Single swing, Double swing, Double Egress, Bifold, etc).
          Then within the Door Family there will be Types - (30" x 80", 36" x 84", 42" x 84", etc). As Scott said, if you use an Instance parameter for the Width, you're going to end up with Doors that are 3'-3 13/16" wide.
          Dave Plumb
          BWBR Architects; St Paul, MN

          CADsplaining: When a BIM rookie tells you how you should have done something.

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            #6
            Doors as instance is by far- a more convenient way to work. We may buy them in sizes, but we don't need to classify them that way when we model them. Its one of the reasons the OOTB doors suck.

            But Scott hit the nail on the head:

            Not a reference- no pull tabs, no alignment.
            Weak ref- aligns, but doesn't stretch when aligned.
            Strong ref- aligns and stretches.

            I hope I have that right, I'm on the road...
            Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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              #7
              I believe you are correct... For me, it's Weak Reference with Instance Parameters.
              Martijn de Riet
              Professional Revit Consultant | Revit API Developer
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                #8
                I may have to take back my advice.

                We've always done doors by Type, but I'd be willing to reconsider if Instance is more efficient. I could see not having all those Types listed, but I'd be concerned that people would start making weird door sizes.
                So, what's the consensus? Instance or Type? I see we have at least two Instance votes already.
                Dave Plumb
                BWBR Architects; St Paul, MN

                CADsplaining: When a BIM rookie tells you how you should have done something.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DaveP View Post
                  I may have to take back my advice.

                  We've always done doors by Type, but I'd be willing to reconsider if Instance is more efficient. I could see not having all those Types listed, but I'd be concerned that people would start making weird door sizes.
                  So, what's the consensus? Instance or Type? I see we have at least two Instance votes already.
                  I'd recommend you to look at how you schedule the doors... At first I was thrilled about the Instance idea, and even made the RFO Doors all instance based, but when time came to schedule those suckers, I got extremely limited by only having 4 "Sort By" fields, when I in reality needed 8-10 "Sort By" fields, to create a schedule based on our local standards...

                  Not saying that Instance based doors can't be a great idea... But it probably depends on how you're required to use them in schedules, etc. - So just think it thoroughly thru, before changing all you families.
                  Klaus Munkholm
                  "Do. Or do not. There is no try."

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                    #10
                    I kind of suspect it's too late to change, anyway:
                    Doors.PNG
                    And that's just the Frames. We have over 60 Panel families that are nested into those Frames.
                    BIG nightmare to keep the old projects going at the same time we'd have to create new versions for new projects.
                    And then try to bring back old projects for remodeling.
                    Dave Plumb
                    BWBR Architects; St Paul, MN

                    CADsplaining: When a BIM rookie tells you how you should have done something.

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