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    I am drawing a gable roof with a level ridge, level eaves, one side of roof rectangle (no problem). The other side is a trapezoid, which means the short side has a steeper pitch than the longer side with constantly varying pitches between. I drew the trapezoid part of the roof with "Roof by Footprint" (flat roof), then modified to get slope at short and long ends with, I think, "Modity Sub Elements." So far so good. Here is the rub. I want a two cut (square cut rafter cut eave) not the big clunky 12" plumb cut. No go. I have tried "Model Implace," to draw the whole trapezoid as an extrusion. I have tried "Sweep," "Swept Blend," "Void Forms," etc. I have gone back to pertinent sections of tutorials "Revit Architecture 2011 essential Training" Paul Aubin, Lynda, Infinite Skills "Learning Revit 2011" Jay Polding, "Autodesk Revit Architecture 2001 Tutorial Series" and finally the Utube series by Tu Graz, Marv Basha,Klaus Hyden & Phillip Muller. Additionally, I have attended about 12 Boston Revit learning Club sessions offered by Eric Boelke under the auspices of the BSA. (Erik said "that's a tough one.") After toughing it out, off and on for weeks with no success, I have to ask myself if this drawing program is worth the effort, when I can't even draw a simple shape like the one I have described. I am hopeful someone reading this may offer me a word of encouragement, so that I can convince myself I am not really going nuts. All this when I am see signs that busines is about to pick, and I'm stuck on this stupid program. Or am I really just stupid and crazy? Am I the only one that feels this level of frustration? is it really worth it? And how many tutorials, how many classes, how many frustations does one have endure before one can feel somewhat confident and competent with this tool.

    For anyone who has the patience to read this,

    Many Thanks!

    Tom Dolle
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    Last edited by Tom Dolle; September 2, 2011, 11:59 PM. Reason: to add graghics wanted to send 2011 revit file too big???

    #2
    Pictures can really help....or even post the model with exterior walls...
    Michael "MP" Patrick (Deceased - R.I.P)

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      #3
      Second that, it's kind off hard to phantom what you're after...
      As for the frustrations: a LOT more then a few weeks. But it's all worth it so hang in there. :thumbsup:
      Martijn de Riet
      Professional Revit Consultant | Revit API Developer
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      Planta1 Revit Online Consulting

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        #4
        Instead of modelling the roof in-place, have you tried modelling an in-place sweep void using the (modified) roof edges as the path for the cut away on the eaves?
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          #5
          OK how do send the revit file? I am not sure I know how to end a piece. Maybe a pdf view.

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            #6
            When writing your reply, go to advanced editing mode (rather than the quick, at the bottom of the thread "quick reply") and you'll see "manage attachments" - there you'll be able to upload files to the forum, and there'll appear in your post.

            Selfishly speaking however, I will not be able to open any version older than 2008 here from home - so perhaps a .pdf will do just fine!

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              #7
              Why not try an In-place Roof Family using a Solid Blend Shape? Or in Revit 2012 you could use either the Mass family Template or the Generic Model Adaptive Template to create the shapes incrementally along the length of the roof.
              Ron Palma
              Applications Specialist
              Twitter: @RonPalmaAEC
              Ideate Inc.
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                #8
                damned, you are smart to put my words into a pic so fast, i know how to go Home>component<in place model (you say no). also i know Massing & Site, in place model.
                what you say all makes sense to me ,but i just don,t seem to be able to close the deal. I wish i could send the revit file, but I don,t know how...i don,t see any button.
                thank you for taking your time most people wouldn't. I guess I sounded deperate (as i am)

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                  #9
                  I recreated snowyweston's drawing through the use of a Solid Blend. I first created walls in teh rogh trapezoidal shape, then placed a reference plane on the front and back walls (this you would not have to do but chose to so I could name the ref planes and set them current when I drew the solid blend), and named them front and back accordingly.

                  Next access Home tab>>Build Panel>>Component>>In-Place Model tool. Select the Roof category and name the in-place roof family. Access the South view, and use the Solid Blend tool to draw the gable at the front of the building (This is the "Base" shape of the Blend). You will be prompted to set a drawing plane, choose your ref plane named "front" and draw the front shape. Next draw the "top" of the blend. Access the North View, set the Back ref plane current and draw the gable at the back of the building.

                  Finish the blend, then the in-place model. You could continue to embelish the roof by creating in-place sweeps for the Fascia, and Soffits
                  Ron Palma
                  Applications Specialist
                  Twitter: @RonPalmaAEC
                  Ideate Inc.
                  www.ideateinc.com

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                    #10
                    I would go with creating a Mass first, import it in your project and then apply roof by face. It should work then...
                    In-Place will also do, but I'm just not a big fan of those...
                    Martijn de Riet
                    Professional Revit Consultant | Revit API Developer
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                    Planta1 Revit Online Consulting

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