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    Help with phasing - object outlines in wrong phase

    Hi,

    I have recently started using revit and am having a small issue with phasing in my project, hope someone can help out.

    I have two phases, existing and proposed.

    In the existing phase i have a wall with 3 windows and a door. These are demolished in the proposed phase and replaced with one big door.

    The problem is that the outline of the old windows show in the proposed elevations and vice versa, attached probably explains better.

    existing phase is set, phase filter - show complete, phase - existing
    and
    proposed phase is set, phase filter - show complete, phase proposed

    Any ideas?

    Thanks
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    #2
    First off: add a Demo Phase... This might solve it.
    Second: check the Wall settings, are these Bearing Walls? If so, select the infill wall elements and set these to bearing as well (strangely enough, that setting ISN'T copied when placing the infill wall.
    Martijn de Riet
    Professional Revit Consultant | Revit API Developer
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      #3
      Originally posted by mdradvies View Post
      First off: add a Demo Phase... This might solve it.
      Second: check the Wall settings, are these Bearing Walls? If so, select the infill wall elements and set these to bearing as well (strangely enough, that setting ISN'T copied when placing the infill wall.
      Thank you, you are a legend, that's been bugging me for days. Setting the infill's to structural fixed the issue.

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        #4
        You're welcome. Welcome to the forum btw!
        Martijn de Riet
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          #5
          My Phasing is a bit different - Not using a Demo Phase!

          Existing Drawings = Phase Existing & Show New
          Demo Drawings = Phase New & Show Previous + Demo
          Proposed Drawings = Phase New & Show Previous +New
          Last edited by d.stairmand; August 4, 2011, 07:50 AM. Reason: Spelling
          Dwane

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            #6
            Originally posted by d.stairmand View Post
            My Phasing is a bit different - Not using a Demo Phase!...
            Agree! Demo is not a phase, it´s an action
            Klaus Munkholm
            "Do. Or do not. There is no try."

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              #7
              Originally posted by Munkholm View Post
              Agree! Demo is not a phase, it´s an action
              ehmmm, with us it's definately a Phase. First you Demo, then you build.
              Looking at it this way, building is also an action / group of actions...
              Martijn de Riet
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                #8
                So, do you also create a phase for Temporary ?

                In my terminology New, Existing, Demolished and Temporary are all states which any object can be in, but they are definitely not all phases, only the first two are.
                Klaus Munkholm
                "Do. Or do not. There is no try."

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                  #9
                  In fact, most of the time I do, yes. At least, I do when you're talking about temporary construction studs or scaffolding. Two main reasons:

                  1. I find it easier to manage visibility in separate phases. In my humble opinion Revit isn't really good at managing different "ohase-actions" in one phase (for instance demo and new). It often gives me problems with wall joins, automatic infills, etc, etc. Also, visibility is so much easier regulated when in different phases.
                  2. Construction: In Holland, more often then not, the demo-crew is a subcontractor. As is the scaffolding-crew. So in fact, those ARE different phases in construction.
                  Martijn de Riet
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                    #10
                    I would have to say I do not see Demo as a phase either. It is an Action, just like pouring concrete, or framing up a wall. We don't give those actions phases why would be do so for the demo-crew?? Also since Revit is has been unable/unwilling to correct the way in which Rooms behave in phases the last thing I would want to do is add more phases then are necessary. To add a Demo &/or Temp phase would be a room/ room tagging nightmare!
                    David J. Patera, Assoc. AIA, EDAC, LEED AP

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