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    How do you emboss a mesh into a solid extrusion

    KK guys my next challenge.

    I've attached to this post an exploded mesh (now just lines) and a solid created in autocad from converting a mass element after using the drape command, with this i would now be able to use it to either emboss/engrave the shape into any solid object.

    I will have a whole room of fancy engravings and embossments that i'm going to have to attach to families in REVIT. so to save me any more scoldings does revit have a command that allows me to do the same thing in REVIT as I have in AutoCAD, so that i can avoid importing dumb objects into revit?

    my modelling skills are excellent in AutoCAD and getting there in REVIT, as i'm sure most of you have noticed i keep hitting the occasional wall in Revit, however my client has requested a Revit model in this case, so it must be done here

    * Please note the files attached are very low res to get under the 2MB limit
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    Just to add to my problems, I have just tried importing the dwg. into Revit and it won't allow/ doesn't understand the ACIS object so there's my back up plan gone unless i convert the whole model to a mesh (which is just messy and again the object would still be dumb)
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      #3
      Originally posted by Jimidy View Post
      Just to add to my problems, I have just tried importing the dwg. into Revit and it won't allow/ doesn't understand the ACIS object so there's my back up plan gone unless i convert the whole model to a mesh (which is just messy and again the object would still be dumb)
      You are going to keep hitting walls, if you keep deferring to "what you know." You wont have a good workflow to start from DWG and end up with RFA. I dont care if you use a solid, a mesh, a line, an anything.

      File > New > family > Pick a Category. Learn how to make what you need with the modeling tools in there, WITHOUT a DWG import. Then youll be flying.

      Its not realistic to think that because you know SOME platform very well, that the others are automatically going to shoehorn to work the same way.
      Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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        #4
        Jimidy, this is getting kind of boring...
        How much of these problems do you need to realise that this is NOT a smart workflow?

        I'm with Aaron: create a Generic Wall Based (or Face Based if you for instance also need to use it on ceilings) Family, and recreate the pattern there in native revit. You can apply this to a wall and you're done.
        Martijn de Riet
        Professional Revit Consultant | Revit API Developer
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          #5
          Please read the post before shooting me down, how do i go about recreating this in REVIT, it needs to be exactly the same as the raw survey data can this be done in revit or will i have to import a polymesh?
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            #6
            personally I wouldn't ..... I would photograph it and apply as a decal

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psT7mfw1Llg

            there are people who can do this kind of stuff in revit - with sweeps and meshes etc - but personally I don't think that an architectural model necessarily 'models' everything.

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              #7
              Yeah that would be the easiest thing to do, however this will be part of a listed building and the conservation officer has requested a detailed 3D model of everything and the client has requested it be done in REVIT, I've already done everything in AUTOCAD as a fallback plan and I'm now trying to recreate everthing in REVIT including these embossments and engravings that are required, not only are they required but they have to perfectly match a point cloud survey of which i have created a mesh from in Geomagic, which i then exploded to create contours, now in cad i can simply create a drape from this which matches perfectly, i was hoping there was something similar in REVIT, I've used the same methods to create a contoured site so i know revit has the intelligence to do it just hoping that i can create some kind of ACIS model from it that can be used either as a void or to join to other objects in the family.

              My fall back plan is to just import a polymesh of what I've created in cad for the intricate details, but as i've been shouted at alot for importing over the last few days I want to avoid it. just hoping one of the people who have been doing the shouting have a solution to this?
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                #8
                slightly out of my bag, but revit 2012 now has native support for point cloud
                http://www.laserscanning.org.uk/foru...hp?f=23&t=3491

                there are also some specialist converters http://imaginit.com/software-solutio...re/scan-to-bim

                James

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                  #9
                  yeah i've used pointclouds quite alot in 2012, The big problem is Revits backward compatibility issues, my client only has 2011, so i'm realistcally restricted to working in that lol
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jimidy View Post
                    yeah i've used pointclouds quite alot in 2012, The big problem is Revits backward compatibility issues, my client only has 2011, so i'm realistcally restricted to working in that lol
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                    I vote you keep doing it however youve been doing, regardless if the workflow stinks in our opinions. Why, you ask?

                    1. You are still approaching the entire thing with a mindset of *heres what i did YESTERDAY, where is the exact same process TOMORROW?* Youre going to get creamed if you keep thinking that way. The family editor isnt something youll learn to do (good) work in, in 15 minutes, and not in three posts here, either. If youre not taking the time to do it right, you might as well keep hacking it with the CAD garbage.

                    2. You are still approaching the entire thing with a mindset that we are "hollaring at you." What you need to understand is that we are telling you the workflow sucks, because the workflow sucks. If your client ASKED for a Revit deliverable (and meant it) and knows anything about Revit, your "fallback" plan isnt worth a hoot anyway. Just because we are telling you the *import autocad in to revit* workflow stinks (which it does) that doesnt mean we have a solution for everything youve modeled in AutoCAD. Revit isnt sculpture software. It isnt fabrication software.

                    3. Your client and you "task." A lot of us here have seen a lot of strange requests from clients, and yours is no different. Build a parametric BIM model that conforms to an as-built laser scan, including sclupture markings? Oookay. Completely non value adding, unless the engravings in those pieces mean that there is a coordination issue with the items surrounding it, but i digress: Normally WE tell the CLIENTS it should go the OTHER way, for THEIR benefit: The design gets made, and then we check the as builts with a point cloud to make sure THEY match the MODEL.

                    All in all, i get it: You dont have time, you dont have fee, you promised the world, and technically dont have a way to deliver it. If there is a chance they will accept your workaround, id go with it. You evidently dont have time to learn it the right way, so might as well bury this one and get it over.
                    Aaron "selfish AND petulant" Maller |P A R A L L A X T E A M | Practice Technology Implementation
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