Fascia - Roof

[sknsnw9]

Hello all,

This has been driving me nuts for a while and I'm now going to ask anyone for some help.

1)- Red pen - Typically the fascia is covered by roof sheeting and roof so you don't see it at all. But how do I cover the fascia with the roof? What is your method for this part? The fascia lines shows up everywhere, on elevation, site plans, etc. I've been hiding the element or using masking region. I'm getting tired of doing this every time and there has to be a better/easier way.

2) Blue pen - the 2x8 fascia automatically connects at the corners no problem, except the 1x4 it does not. Any way to make them connect together? It's all in one part and not clicking on it separately. Also noticed how the fascia sticks out horizontally and not blending in with the roof pitch. How do you get it to blend along with the roof pitch? I hope you get what I'm trying to say here.

If you notice in the 3d, the fascia is not covered under the roof.

Thanks for any help.

[jmk]

Firstly, the easiest way to turn off fascias in a view where you don't want to see them is through the use of the visibility graphics dialog or a view template (under "roof")

1 - I suspect this has to do with how you build your roof, and your fascia. You can create a profile that sits the fascia to an inside edge, or offset individual ones. I don't think it is possible to get your fascia to cut your roof, so to get the look you desire you might need to build two separate roofs, one slightly larger which just has the sheathing and roofing material, and one smaller that just has the structure, and to which the fascia attaches.

2 - Not sure - perhaps see if the mitering options (when you click on a multi-segment fascia) have any options?

I've only used fascias for low slope roofs, and those do go adjacent to or above the roof surface, so I haven't worked with them a lot.

[MPwuzhere]

I use two separate roofs....the shingles being the second....so I can cover up the fascia that is hosted to the first...
(BTW, I do the same thing with ArchiCAD....in case the AC Trolls are around)

[cellophane]

For the gable ends I use a family that has the trim board (most of our jobs use the barge board as the fascia board - it's cheaper ) and the birdbox (again, cheap) and only use the fascia tool for the hip sides of the roof. Initially it was a face-based family but I'm transitioning to a line-based family since it is quite a bit easier to place.

For your questions however -

The fascia may or may not get covered by the roof material, that depends on how you want it built. If you do want it that way I would go for 2 roofs as MP and JMK have suggested. If your fascia and barge board are the same thing (see image below), there is a toggle to flip the fascia (or you can use a different profile) and then you can join the fascia and the roof together. However - you will run into problems with the gable fascia when you try to join which is why I have the family mentioned above. For sake of argument I'm using bargeboard for the barge & gutter board, even though they are technically different things.

Bargeboard


Combo Fascia / Bargeboard


To return the 1x trim just select the remaining edge of the fascia and it will connect. 2014-08-06_0923 - cellophane's library

[sknsnw9]

Sorry it took a while to get back.

Cellophane, I didn't realized that you have to click one more to return the 1x trim. Thanks for video!

I'll work on creating a family for the gable roof later and just go with what I currently have. I need to finish these drawings by the weekend, so I can't play around much for now.

I guess I'll have to make 2 roofs like you guys suggested!

JKM - I totally forgot about using the visibility graphics. But it wouldn't help in elevations especially!

It would be nice if the fascia has more tools to control it better!

Thanks for your help!

[cellophane]

Cellophane, I didn't realized that you have to click one more to return the 1x trim. Thanks for video!

I'll work on creating a family for the gable roof later and just go with what I currently have. I need to finish these drawings by the weekend, so I can't play around much for now.

I posted some a while back here: http://www.revitforum.org/architectu...-coursing.html I have fixed and improved (IMO) a few things in them, if you have 2015 I can upload newer versions.

[PijPiwo]

To return the 1x trim just select the remaining edge of the fascia and it will connect. 2014-08-06_0923 - cellophane's library

You can also apply 1x4 fascia picking the roof edges (not the other fascia) and giving the fascia horizontal profile offset. That way these two fascias are independent, if that’s what desirable.
Just my 2 cents

[sknsnw9]

Thanks for the tips! I'll keep it in mind!

[sknsnw9]

Thanks for your help guys!

I just made a short video of what I did in case others has the same questions.

Basically I made a separate fascia for the hip side and the gable side and just join them together. That way I can control the vertical on the hip side otherwise if it was all in one piece then the vertical adjustment will also apply on the gable side. You can see the difference comparing both sides. And using 2 roofs method.

2014-08-11_1907 - sknsnw95443's library