Marketing Drawings:

[Jj Mac]

Hello,

Does anyone out there have any good tips for doing black line marketing type drawings in Revit?

[JCM]

Can you post an example of what you are looking for?

[Jj Mac]

Can you post an example of what you are looking for?

Hi Juan,

Please see attached.

Basically what we do here is copy a working view, crop it so it only shows the suite in question, and then use a masking region to mask out the model around the suite. We have been using a combination filters, filled regions etc., to create the effect of a black line drawing. Then obviously, dimension and add notes, tags, etc… and finally throw it on a sheet.
The problem is this – we find that when the prints go out there are a lot of little "white gaps" or artifacts in walls etc. that pop up after we print. Sometimes it almost seems as if any two lines are on top of each other they are somehow canceling one another out? If you zoom in really close, you can pick up some of the issues. Especially around the suite entry door. Also, when we mask out around the suite sometimes we need to use a combination of two or more line styles in the masking sketch to get the graphics right, so you end up breaking lines into segments with different styles which is a bit tedious.

For the most part we are able to solve the issues, it’s just that overall, it's a tedious process. I was hoping to maybe get some other opinions on this to see if there are other techniques. We are doing full marketing sets in Revit with no CAD which is really nice, but when you have 100+ layouts to do, it just takes a while! I haven’t seen to many threads on this so like I said, if you have some ideas, please share.

Thanks again!

[renogreen]

It looks like you might be using filled regions to achieve the black walls. If you use the solid fill (black) pattern for the wall materials (cut) you will eliminate the need to create filled regions for the walls. If you're already doing that...never mind. Floors can have materials and patterns assigned to them also....again, if you're already doing that...

[Alfredo Medina]

...We have been using a combination filters, filled regions etc., to create the effect of a black line drawing. ...

It seems to me that you are doing more work that is necessary. Do you really need filled regions? what for? for walls? for floors? you can do that quickly setting up graphic overrides in the Visibility Graphics dialog box. Then, save the configuration as a view template. Then, apply the view template to your 100+ views. If the apartments are in separate Revit files, used as links in the overall plan, you could avoid the need of using masking regions, too. I hope this helps.

Edit: since you have different floor patterns, there are 2 other ways to avoid filled regions: 1) Finish floors as individual thin floor entities on top of the structural slab. Then, you edit the type properties of each finish floor, to show the correspondent hatch pattern. 2) Split face + paint.

[mdradvies]

1. Masking everything outside the suite:
Create an extra Shared Parameter (integer, instance based) and apply this to all categories in your project. Name it "suite nr" or something.
Now assign all elements to a suite number, set up filters to filter a view for elements specific to a suite and you're done.
2. Black line.
As stated above, this can be done by methods described above. Set up a view teplate which shows all walls in black solid hatch.

[JCM]

What I do to show the black line style is set the coarse scale fill pattern to solid fill (black color) in the wall's properties, this way when I want that kind of style I just change the detail level to coarse and the walls are solid black, in terms of the floors, Alfredo's idea of using a separate floor for the finish, is the way I handle things. It allows for more flexibility in the situations and it is more accurate to how it's built in real life.

Hope this helps

[feio]

1. Masking everything outside the suite:
Create an extra Shared Parameter (integer, instance based) and apply this to all categories in your project. Name it "suite nr" or something.
Now assign all elements to a suite number, set up filters to filter a view for elements specific to a suite and you're done.

What about common walls, Martijn?

[mdradvies]

set them to 01+02 and filter on "contains" value 01 (and if you have more then 100 suite, use 001 and 002)

about the coarse scale fill pattern: this could be used IF you set your families to it. A lot of (ootb) families will have different view settings for coarse scale.

[Munkholm]

What I do to show the black line style is set the coarse scale fill pattern to solid fill (black color) in the wall's properties, this way when I want that kind of style I just change the detail level to coarse and the walls are solid black, in terms of the floors, Alfredo's idea of using a separate floor for the finish, is the way I handle things. It allows for more flexibility in the situations and it is more accurate to how it's built in real life.

Hope this helps

That´s exactly how I do it too :beer: