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    Removing embedded tags in families based on scale

    Is there is a way to use Dynamo to hide tags embedded in families? What I have is a large number of linked files with the OOTB dishwasher, washer, dryer and water heater displaying their embedded label in plans. I'd rather not go back and revise the visibility of the label for each link.

    What I'd like to do is find a way to tell the label that it shall not be displayed when the scale of the floor plan is greater than 'X'. Is this even possible? My dynamo guy doesn't know if it is and I know enough about dynamo to not even earn the right to eat a crayon.

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    If the annotation is assigned to a parameter for visible we can only turn it on or off everywhere. It isn't possible to turn of such annotation in one view and not the other. Shared annotation families are not permitted in 3D families so that kills touching the nested family.

    As such I'd be quite surprised if Dynamo could do something that Revit doesn't allow or do itself.
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    Is the embedded tag a generic annotation?

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    It's the label that comes with the OOTB families.

    EDIT:
    I checked. It is a Generic Annotation.
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    So... Yes it is a generic annotation.

    But I realized what I was thinking was out of line and would not work.

    Best Dynamo could do is tag these things in the views you want based on scales and avoid messing with the labels..
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    The short version is: You can do it if you are willing to edit the families in the other model, and willing to put in a lot of effort to deal with the Generic Annotations.

    Essentially, when some folks have *refused* to let go of the Generic Annotations demand, here is what i do:

    Generic Annotation > (nested into) Shared/Nested Generic Model (with no geometry) > (nested into) Actual Family.

    Now you can use Filters in Plans at different scales... to Hide the Generic MODEL, not the Generic Annotation.

    But its stupid. Just ditch the GA's (or have the architects ditch the GA's) and use Tags and Dynamo, and dont ever look back.

    "Automatically" getting the letters REF on a refrigerator just isnt that big of a sell or a benefir, and they treat it like the entire profession will collapse if they dont have it. Its stupid.

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    Removing the annotation from the family sounds good to me. It's a good, permanent solution. I just didn't want to do it so many time this late in the project. I'll get an intern to do it for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_Stafford View Post
    If the annotation is assigned to a parameter for visible we can only turn it on or off everywhere. It isn't possible to turn of such annotation in one view and not the other. Shared annotation families are not permitted in 3D families so that kills touching the nested family.

    As such I'd be quite surprised if Dynamo could do something that Revit doesn't allow or do itself.
    Dynamo can't do anything to the Revit document that Revit itself cannot do sadly.
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