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    File Naming: Design -> Construction

    I work for a construction company. We have a naming convention for model files that we use internally, and we require subcontractors to use the same convention. Our office standards also call for members of the design team to use this convention. I think this makes sense if we're involved with the project at the very beginning of design, but I'm not so sure about it if we're not involved until later on.

    Example - our VDC group is about to start model coordination on a project where CD's are just wrapping up. The design team has their own file naming convention, and I don't see the value in asking them to rename their models now. I can obviously rename their files each time they send an update, but it's an extra step that I also don't see the value in either. There is no owner model requirement or deliverable. I think that as long as I document their standard, I can work with the names they already have.

    How are others handling this? I've done some web searching, but I'm having trouble finding a good example of the scenario I've described above. Do you require/have you been required to change file names?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LKeyser View Post
    I work for a construction company. We have a naming convention for model files that we use internally, and we require subcontractors to use the same convention. Our office standards also call for members of the design team to use this convention. I think this makes sense if we're involved with the project at the very beginning of design, but I'm not so sure about it if we're not involved until later on.

    Example - our VDC group is about to start model coordination on a project where CD's are just wrapping up. The design team has their own file naming convention, and I don't see the value in asking them to rename their models now. I can obviously rename their files each time they send an update, but it's an extra step that I also don't see the value in either. There is no owner model requirement or deliverable. I think that as long as I document their standard, I can work with the names they already have.

    How are others handling this? I've done some web searching, but I'm having trouble finding a good example of the scenario I've described above. Do you require/have you been required to change file names?

    It's really not that hard to change the name of a file, either they do it once or you do it every time they update. Choose your poison. I know which one I would choose.
    I suggest you get a BIM execution/management plan together that defines these things, as this puts in writing what everyone should be doing. Otherwise you will forever be running around in circles, or renaming files, if that's what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elton williams View Post
    I suggest you get a BIM execution/management plan together that defines these things, as this puts in writing what everyone should be doing.
    We have a BEP, but I'm currently updating it. That's the genesis of the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LKeyser View Post
    How are others handling this?
    Depends.

    How long is a piece of string?


    I have both personally, and overseen manual and automated changes of document references, and on occasion done dual-accounting (keeping two references)


    If you're after automation techniques, then we first have to start with how the two references are constructed, i.e. (are they full-string, or concatenated multiple fields) - then how familiar you are with roundtripping (out/in via spreadsheet-based list edits) or if you're comfortable with Dynamo, etc.

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    Sitting on the design side, unless the design team is contractually obligated to work for you, good luck.
    Now... If you just want NWC files from them. It's not a stretch to rename before sending them to you.

    Just out of curiosity, are any of your processes actually tied to requiring the name of the file to be a certain way, or is it just a preference?

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    Now I've had a week to think on this topic after a tumultuous internal dialogue in my head last Friday. In the project I'm working on right now, it was only two files, so I just renamed them manually. I made a job change over to construction about 6 months ago after working as an architect for 10+ years, so I often have two perspectives.

    I'm not seeking out automation techniques for renaming files at this time.

    I don't have a contract with the design team, so I can't enforce renaming a file, although I think if I had a really good reason I could talk it through with them.

    We currently don't have any processes tied to the file names, but I prefer if there is some indication of the discipline in the name.

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