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    BIM 360 Glue for internal uses

    I liked being a "Lurker" but I'm in too deep and need help.
    I am trying to sell the benefits of Glue to the people who control the money but they are very resistant. The trial version is not at a proper level for demonstrating.
    My plan was to use it for internal coordination, access to our models on site visits and to allow the principles to access the models for their own use.
    Are these uses worth the cost or are there better alternatives.
    Autodesk and our reseller want to push the collaboration aspect.
    Thanks,
    Kelly

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    Based on what you are trying to achieve there's no need for glue (besides for coordination)
    It is expensive and not yet directly connected to BIM 360 sadly

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    Thanks for your reply.

    As I understand it BIM 360 is used for collaboration among design firms which we don't need for now.

    "Not yet" is another good reason to be familiar with some kind of collaboration software, would be nice to get ahead of the curve for a change.
    Having access to our model in the field and being able to record markups would seem to justify at least part of the cost to get our feet wet.

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    Look into Revizto...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chickenwire View Post
    Thanks for your reply.

    As I understand it BIM 360 is used for collaboration among design firms which we don't need for now.

    "Not yet" is another good reason to be familiar with some kind of collaboration software, would be nice to get ahead of the curve for a change.
    Having access to our model in the field and being able to record markups would seem to justify at least part of the cost to get our feet wet.
    Clarifications:

    BIM 360 is a "platform" which contains different Packages that contain modules in those packages:

    Packages to subscribe to:

    BIM 360 Docs
    BIM 360 Design
    BIM 360 Glue
    BIM 360 Build

    ALL of BIM 360 products are available via web browser, or Apple OR Android apps, in the newly consolidated BIM 360 App. (used to be separate apps for the different offerings) Get to your data from any device, any where in the world you have an internet connection. (iOS and Android have offline capabilities as well)

    Each Package and their modules:

    BIM 360 Docs has 2 modules: Document Management and Project Home, and is for Project stakeholders. It's the "central" repository for files and data for a project. It also contains markup, issue tracking, version comparison tools, Document Review "Workflows", transmittals and more. Document Management will version control every file you have in a BIM 360 project. Unlimited Data storage, and currently 1000 projects per person (expanding to 10,000 in the near future). The Project Home module is your "Dashboard" view for all things going on in a project...it's the "project home screen" where your users will start their day to find out the tasks that need to be completed.

    BIM 360 Design Contains 3 modules: Design Collaboration, Document Management, and Project Home, and a Service we now call Revit Cloud Worksharing (formerly Collaboration for Revit) This package is for Revit based design teams. The Design Collaboration module is your "Team space" and includes your "team timeline" to see what the other consultants have curated and shared. The Revit Cloud Worksharing service allows your teams to Collaborate on Revit files via the cloud. (Revit Worksharing with Central files in the cloud on a BIM 360 Document Management project site.)

    BIM 360 Glue has 3 modules: Model Coordination, Document Management, and Project Home. BIM 360 Glue is targeted for those that need to understand clash related issues either in Design or Construction...so a Project Manager of Design, or a BIM/VDC manager in construction. The Model Coordination module is where your BIM 360 Revit files (and soon IFC files and more) are aggregated into a single cohesive model, and then AUTOMATICALLY clash detected. (and yes, this does work today...it IS connected to BIM 360. I've talked a bit with Daniel in direct messages). Once Clashes are automatically identified, users in BIM 360 Glue can mark those clashes as an Issue, and assign them to the responsible people/groups, or mark them as "not an issue" and provide the justification for why they aren't an issue. (the confusion here is that we have an older product we now call "Glue Classic" which was our original Glue product, which is NOT connected to BIM 360. AND then we have the "NEXT GEN BIM 360 Glue" which IS directly connected to BIM 360)

    BIM 360 Build has 4 modules: Field Management, Project Management, Document Management, and Project Home (see the trend here? They ALL have Document Management and Project Home). BIM 360 Build is generally for the construction teams. Field Management is for Checklists, Issues (Safety, QA/QC, Punchlists. etc.), and Daily Logs. Field Management allows easy creation of checklists and checklist templates to be used across any number of projects. Project Management has RFI and Submittal tools included. Issues and RFIs can be identified directly in 2D documents AND 3D models via "virtual push-pins."

    In summary, all BIM 360 packages come with Document Management and Project Home Modules. Document Management is the "BASE" for all of BIM 360...its where ALL the data and files live. BIM 360 Docs is the Package that anyone on a BIM 360 project will need at a minimum to participate in the project. The other Packages can stand on their own, OR be subscribed to together for a discount. example: you want BIM 360 Design AND BIM 360 Glue...you will get BIM 360 Glue for 25% off because you also have subscribed to Design. There are also price breaks for multi-user packs: 25, 100, and 1000 packs are available, each with substantially more of a discount. For example, as of the date of this post, 17 individual BIM 360 Design Licenses is the same cost as a 25 pack of BIM 360 Design licenses...so get the 25 pack.

    Hope that clears it up a bit! It's NOT expensive, allows your remote access to models/drawings/documents, allows principals access to models for markups and issues without knowing Revit, and the only reason a user would need BIM 360 Design (Collaboration) is for those users that must have access to Revit Cloud Worksharing on Revit files. (principals and others ONLY need BIM 360 Docs to view/markup/etc and have access to Document Management, Project Home, and Design Collaboration modules)

    Questions? :-)

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    Thank you very much, excellent summary.

    Our Autodesk reseller has been very helpful but I feel their pain keeping up with all these changes and convoluted naming scheme.

    Guess we picked a bad year to quit sniffing glue. Sorry, had to.

    Kelly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott D Davis View Post
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    Questions? :-)
    Thank you, Scott, for the summary. I do have a question. Considering the presence of the Document Management and Project Home modules in all the products, the only reason to subscribe to another second product, once we have one, is for the unique additional modules, correct? But, this is the situation: I have my paid accounts of BIM 360 Docs + Design. And I use Navisworks. So, my only interest in Glue was in its coordination module. But, the coordination module of Glue is missing in the trial mode. Only other modules, such as Document Management, are available. But, as you have explained, that module already exists in my Docs account. This decision of hiding the coordination module from the trial makes the trial useless for me. What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfredo Medina View Post
    the only reason to subscribe to another second product, once we have one, is for the unique additional modules, correct?
    Yes:

    Subscribe to Design to get the Design Collaboration Module and the Revit Cloud Worksharing service
    Subscribe to Glue to get the Model Coordination Module
    Subscribe to Build to get the Field Management and Project Management Modules

    Now...for Glue, i will have to look into why your trial is not showing the Model Coordination Module. You are sure you have activated it for a project? You must go to Project Admin>Members, and turn the Model Coordination module/service ON for the users you want to have access to it for a project.

    Additionally, since you mentioned Navisworks, the Glue module that runs in BIM 360 now (we call it Next Gen Glue) ONLY works for RVT files at the moment. The team is working on enabling other file formats such as IFC and NWC. If you want to use Glue with Navisworks, you will be using "Classic Glue" which is our older product, not tied to BIM 360 Document Management.

    Hope that helps, let me know if you verify the Glue module is turned on for your username in a project, and you still can't "see" it as an available module in BIM 360.

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