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    THey shouldnt have to use a Search set at all. Thats WAY slower than just selecting the Door. Which should work, BTW. Mine do, as long as Selection Resolution is set to FIRST OBJECT, which is NOT the same as Geometry.

    All of my components use Shared and Nested Subcomponents, and they are all still selectable with a single click in Navisworks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
    Mine do
    But your panel's not (highlight) selected there?

    In your selection tree we can see FRM and PNL components - since Navis* doesn't see (or stack) them as children.

    No poke - but I think this is what Ekko's peeps are up against.



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    ...and as I was reminded yesterday, nor does IFC
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    Ohhhh, the issue is they want to select everything in the window, and have all items be selected?

    I misunderstood. A common request i get is that the Contractors want to see the "Door schedule Line item data" aka the Parent Family's properties, and because they have Last Item or geometry selected, they dont see it, as they select a nested component.

    And also: Im wrong about how mine behaves: Even using First Object, its working when i select the Swings because the swings arent shared. But if you click on the Panels or Frames it doesnt select the Parent Door. My bad.

    Thats sort of a pain.
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    Have ran into this as well in the past.

    You can do this if you're up for it:

    With Dynamo select your window elements, determine which instances belongs to which window, pull in the geometry, join the geometry into single solids, push those into a new family using Direct Shape.
    Determine the metadata you wish to include for the client, read from the appropriate sub element and push into this new element.

    Swap old for new elements in your project, export the view to IFC, close the file and don't save.

    Rerun the script for next export moment.

    Far from charming or effortless but it works, the colours/graphics will suck donkey balls though.

    I think I have a rough Proof of Concept lying around, will check tomorrow.
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    Thanks guys! Seems we are getting to the core of the problem.
    One more thought I had: I think wrapping the window with its nested shared components in an Assembly (bit of a pain in Revit, totally doable in Dynamo) and then exporting to IFC results in selectable objects, at least when imported into Solibri, so the structure is there. I wonder if that structure is still there when the model is imported back into Revit.
    Also, can Navisworks select Assemblies in an IFC?

    Maybe we'll try going back to non-shared content, if I can Dynamo my way into the Family Editor to make changes to Type properties of non shared nested families. Not looking forward to that, and that's a first! Any add-ins that do this?

    One more question: if the frame is the main family, like it is now, what in your opinion are the drawbacks for user experience in Navisworks, and what is the best way to cope with those problems? I've read some solutions above, but I'd like to be clear about what problems they solve and how.
    And get me a pony too while you're at it. You've all been a great help so far, thanks!
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    In your original message, you wrote "A client wants to use our model in Navisworks, and wants to be able to select a whole Window". But you didn't specify what kind of selection is not working. Is it the simple selection of clicking on a window the only kind of selection that is not working? I see that it is possible to select the whole window by other means (selection tree, or sets). What is the purpose of the selection? quantification of windows or reading individual properties?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfredo Medina View Post
    In your original message, you wrote "A client wants to use our model in Navisworks, and wants to be able to select a whole Window". But you didn't specify what kind of selection is not working. Is it the simple selection of clicking on a window the only kind of selection that is not working? I see that it is possible to select the whole window by other means (selection tree, or sets). What is the purpose of the selection? quantification of windows or reading individual properties?
    Guilty as charged, I have not had the chance to look over my clients shoulder when he is using the model. Maybe I should try exactly that. As it stands, I can only guess at what they are doing with it. From what I have been told, I surmise 'clicking on it' is what they are doing, or want their less skilled co-workers to be able to do (they did tell me the average age of the end user is around sixty, make of that what you will), I have not heard them about using search sets. Seems perfectly logical to me, but I've come to understand that I'm not a typical user.
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    Maybe before you go into assemblies and Dynamo and other things that might be time consuming and might create other issues, it would be good to let the client know that the whole window can be selected as a whole. Maybe not with the simple click selection, but it can be selected and quantified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekkonap View Post
    Maybe we'll try going back to non-shared content,
    Tail wags dog.

    Ergo Ekko: You don't (really) want to do that.

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    Damn, this was a very rough sketch of a graph idea.

    Making instances of In-place families now, might want to look into the Nodes that do the same in a Family Document.
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