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    Question Some Questions!

    Hey guys! First of all sorry if my english is bad, I'm brazilian.
    I'm new on Revit and also in this forum. I'm an architecture student, and I always used AutoCAD. But now I just finished a Revit course, and I'm trying to finish a little project but I'm having some troubles:

    1. When I render a camera view, I can see the sky, but between the sky and my building there's a huge space in gray, like if I see the Earth, the horizon line, and then the sky. How can I get the sky "closer" to my building, without that huge gray thing?

    2. In the Realistic view mode, some materials (like Glass and Water) stay in front of all the others, even if there's something in front of them. Is this a video card issue? There's any way to solve this? (Note: This is just a view issue, when I render, it's ok)

    3. Can I make a wall with different "Base offset" for its core and its finish? How do I do that? Ex.: I want the core of my wall to be at 0.00, but the finish have to continue until -1.00, because I have a pool on that area and the finish is the same of the wall.

    4. I'm creating a new material. When I duplicate a material that's already in the project, every change I make in the second material, changes in the first one too. The only way I found is to take another material of the library, put in the project and edit it again. Why is that happening? There's a way to fix it?

    5. There's something like a Library (as we see on Google Sketchup) or some website where I can get done things such as furniture, ready to put in my project? When we talk about this, are we talking about families? This part of my course was very basic...

    6. What's the best way to put water in pools? I thought I could create a floor with 'Water' material, but this would put this water in a quantitative schedule about floors, for example...

    7. There's a way to save my project on a later version of Revit? I'm using 2013 at home, but at work I have 2012. I just want to open my files there, at least to see the projects, even if I'm not able to edit, or if it looses something.

    Thank you!
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    Some answers...
    2. This is a graphics card issue. Solution (that worked for me) update drivers to latest.
    3. Select a wall, or activate the wall tool and select the type from the dropdown. Click 'Type Properties' then click 'edit structure'. There is a button to the bottom labelled 'preview', activate this and from the dropdown select 'section'. Zoom in with your scroll wheel to the top/bottom of the wall. Click the modify button (in bottom group of buttons). Select the edge of the layer that you whish to extend. There will be a lock symbol appear. Click this, and repeat for any other layers you wish to move with the offset. Note: unlocked layers must be contiguous (together) and from an outside edge. You cannot have different offsets for both inside and outside faces.
    4. You need to duplicate the appearance 'asset' in the 'materials editor' dialogue box. Right-click the appearance and you will be given the option to duplicate if there are multiple instances in the project. useful links Here & Here
    5. Visit sites like autodesk seek and revit city... Google is a good place to start
    6. Many ways. I have generally used floors as they are easy to sketch and modify. You can use almost any type of object, you may consider an inplace 'site' family and extrude your water off the pool edges. If you use a floor, you can filter it into or out of your schedules.
    7. You can open earlier version files in later versions without compromising the information. You CANNOT save backward, so if it is only to view, and you are using a copy you have bought home, no problems. Otherwise ensure you have at least 1 backup file created automatically, or manually...
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    Some addendums to Tim's answers:

    1. I think this has to do with your Camera Settings. Go to a Plan View. Find the Camera View in your project browser, right click and select Show Camera. If all is well the Properties palette will show the camera settings. Look for Eye elevation and Target elevation. Change these to match your needs.
    3. I wouldn't use this, hard to keep coordinated. Instead I'm going to assume that the part extending to 0 is sitting on a floor and the part extending to -1 is not (for instance tiles that will run in front of the floor). Set the base constraint for the wall to -1. Then select the wall, and click Attach Top/Bottom. Select "Bottom" in the options bar and attach to the floor. If aligned properly this should work. Might give you a hassle if the wall corner settings are set to "Butt". If so, try changing to "Mitter".
    6. There is a thread around here explaining how to do this. Also one about how to create a "wrinkled" surface. I think it's in the Render forum... posted by sdbrownia
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    Thanks Mark!!
    I didn't realise that worked with walls. With cursory examination it seems to also resolve an Issue I was having with the 'timber framed walls' extension which would frame to the lower extension lavel, not the bottom of the framing. The one thing it breaks though is that in NZ, timber framing must overhang your floor by 10mm, and your cladding extend 50mm down. Your method has a 10mm strip of framing down the edge of the floor....

    Cheers

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    Responded with a blog post... find it here

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    Thank you for answering, guys! Here's the feedback:

    1. The Eye Elevation and Target Elevation are configured. I change them and I can see the sky, but anything I change can make the sky "come closer". Every setting I put, keeps that ugly gray thing. It only disappears if I look to my building from a very low level. I believe that it must have a way to make this better. Take a look:
    Some Questions!-3d-view-1.jpg
    (Ignore the quality and the horrible toposurface, hehe)

    2. My VGA drivers are on their latest version. But ok, let's understand this as a little bug and move on, since it's not too much annoying! :P

    3. That's exactly what I was looking for, it worked! Thanks a lot, you two!

    4. It worked too!

    5. Nice, these websites have what I need! Thank you!

    6. Sorry! I forgot I could just hide the "Water-floor" from a quantitative schedule! Haha... But the "in-place" method is better, I think! Also, I'll search this topic from sdbrownia.

    7. That sucks! Sometimes I make something cool in 2013 at home, and can't bring to my work because it's 2012. If I have 2013 and 2012 installed on my computer, there's a way to transport my 2013 project to a new 2012 project, and then save it?

    Thank you!
    Last edited by lucasgarcia.lg; August 14th, 2012 at 04:15 AM.

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    1. render with a white background and photoshop your sky in OR place a decal of your sky on a giant wall in the background blocking the horizon OR render in 3DS Max!

    7. No, there is ZERO backwards compatibility with Revit. Suggest downloading a trial/student version of 2012 for your home computer.

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    Good ideas for the rendering! About the backward compatibility, ok then!

    Thanks a lot, elton williams!
    Last edited by lucasgarcia.lg; August 15th, 2012 at 04:22 AM.

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