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    Best Practice For Interior Partition Types

    Our firm uses a method of tracking wall types that is addequate for acad, however, since I am setting up a Revit template, I would to show the Principal and PM's the Revit way of populating legends and Keys from the model. Is there anyone willing to post some examples of how an Assembly Types sheet and wall tags are constructed for your firm, as I am still hazy on a best practice for this item.

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    I created our wall tags based on what we had in CAD...a simple callout with a thickened leader... Now in CAD it would go across the entire wall, but Revit goes to the center of the wall. We decided that was good enough and left it at that instead of unlinking the tag to drag it that extra couple of inches across the wall. No fancy squares or diamonds...just text and a line. It worked in CAD and it works in Revit...

    We use drafting views for our wall types though. Attempted the legend method and didn't like it. Walls are split up to the type of wall they are. All to often we get models from other architects that have P1-P50 of all the partition types. Can you say h e a d a c h e? For CAD we had SFx (Full Height Stud), SPx (Partial Height Stud), IFx (Interior Furring), SWx (Shaft Wall), Ex (Exterior Finish), SSx (Security Stud)..."x" of course is the number... Its easier to keep track of your wall types this way...starting with P something gets confusing, and what if you have a wall like P5 but you used P6 for a totally different type of wall and tried to put P38 with P5?

    Anyway, I'll try to post an example tomorrow.... But the nice thing about our method SF5 on one project is the same wall type as SF5 on another project...doesn't have to be this way, but it helps when maintaining a library of wall types.
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    I manager our wall types with an external file that is loaded into our template/ project as a group. The external file has all our standard wall types and the detailing. So when I need to create a wall type detail in my project, I select the group and choose "Attached Detail Groups", choose the correct detailing from the list, and my detailing is automatically applied to the wall.

    I like this method for a few reasons:
    1. The attached detail thing is pretty cool.
    2. I only have to manage the wall types in a single location. When changes or updates are required, you only need to reload the file as a group and it will update.
    3. Because the standard wall types exist as a group in the project, no one can purge the walls out of the project.
    4. Because these are real walls and not legend graphics, I can use my actual wall tags and make them any length I need.

    Here is a screen shot of our typical wall types sheet.
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    There's a bit here as well: http://www.revitforum.org/architectu...aging-all.html

    I haven't figured out what I'm doing long term but at the moment I'm using the Legend phase approach.

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    Here ya go...This is how we do it...
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    Good Morning to all,....thank you for the response to my request,...give me a little time to look these over and after a cup of coffee and I will comment on what I see.


    Thanks again,

    -Chuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by MPwuzhere View Post
    Here ya go...This is how we do it...
    I like this approach,...it reminds me sort of like a door schedule. So when you add a wall to the project, what is the proceedure to add to the Assembly Types Sheet. In your example, is the graphic depiction of the each wall is a drafting view?

    -Chuck

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    Yep...they are drafting views...we have them created for all wall types...if we have a special situation we just duplicate a drafting view and modify it.

    I then keep a Wall Types schedule so I know which views I need to have included on the overall sheet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MPwuzhere View Post
    Yep...they are drafting views...we have them created for all wall types...if we have a special situation we just duplicate a drafting view and modify it.

    I then keep a Wall Types schedule so I know which views I need to have included on the overall sheet.
    Nice,...very nice! I'm going to run with this,...I let you know how it goes.

    Thanks for the help,

    -Chuck

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    I went a very different route. Off to the side of the model is an area called the "Type Garden". I use a Design Option approach to keep the stuff here from being visible in the rest of the model. I then place actual examples of the walls in use in the project here. Actual Partition Type views can be little plans or sections, which are then sheeted and intelligently annotated. I then use a schedule to crosscheck that I have all walls that are actually in use also placed in the type garden, and nothing extraneous in the type garden. If something changes dimensions all my Partition views then update appropriately, and if a note changes, it changes everywhere. Very BIMmie.
    All that said, the drafting view approach can be a successful way to do a first few projects, potentially even leveraging your DWG partition drawings by pulling them into reusable Detail Components, NOT directly in the project! The modeled Types approach can then be rolled out later, as users get their heads around the BIMmie workflow.

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